Since I never really use them, I can offer Hermes for being framed and accused of the murders, and Ashpaw either as a murder victim or as an accusation victim.

Another thing I'd be willing to do: 

Troutpaw can join the fight club, not to fight, but as the healer for immediately after the battles - sneaking out along with the apprentices to act as their on-scene medicine cat. Now, because of this, he'd be vanishing without explanation, which likely wouldn't go unnoticed due to his position. Furthermore, he'd be coming back with blood on his paws - all a rather suspicious display. Since tensions in the clans are high, someone could jump to conclusions rather quickly, and start accusing him of the murders. Because of his high-ranked position, this could cause quite some controversy. 

I'm open for a lot to happen to him, if this goes through, but there are two things that I wouldn't be willing to do, at this point in time:

- Trout being executed/otherwise dying

- Troutpaw ending up as a regular apprentice/warrior permanently

- I'm alright with it if he's temporarily, in-character demoted, but only if he's guaranteed to return to his position once the accusations pass - he'd just turn into a useless character as a warrior, and I really enjoy him at the moment, so I don't want to see that happen.

 

 

River, that sounds like a great idea. I was also considering some of the leaders or warriors noticing that the apprentices are all strategically going missing at the same time. I think it'd be hilarious as a casual subject- that could be Troutpaw's 'in' perhaps?

"Hey, where do you all go?"

"Come find out"

in all seriousness, Troutpaw would be amazing and I'm sure Fencepaw would come clean to clear his name, perhaps ending the fence club. It shouldn't be too hard to pick up the pieces if we go the second route.

Kam, I was thinking of having my two male Apprentices join the Fight Club.

- Oakpaw of Sunclan, son to Sandstar. He is going to be brave and ambitious.

- Beechpaw of Moonclan, I was thinking that he was more of a moderator, if anything a ref? I don't think I'd have him in on the fighting portion though.

Continuing what I posted on the side plot page, I plan on having Ravenpaw join the club, or being forced to anyways. Also, I plan to have him attend the next Deliverance meeting to get that ball rolling as well. Anyone have a cat in Eclipseclan that could take him with them to the meeting? They would tell him that they're going on patrol, and then go to the meeting instead. 

As as far as the witch hunt, Foxfang of Moonclan could be accused, but not condemned at first. Lionheart and Owlheart would back him up, but then discover later that they were wrong to do so. In the end, Lionheart will find out e truth and kill him, but for now, I think it'd be interesting for some cats to accuse him. I also have Ravenpaw of Eclipseclan, and Risingdawn of Sunclan who can all be accused. 

On another subject, I will be sending a pm out later today, or tomorrow if I get busy today, to the owners of the "Siblings" so we can discuss where we'll go from here. I don't want them to be found out when the Deliverance falls, but not too long after either. I was thinking that after the Deliverance falls, they could meet together and somehow Nadia can let it slip that they aren't really related or something? She's never told them of their true backstory, and they were too young to remember what happened. I plan on that being her down fall, but if any of this conflicts with the main plot, I can change it.

Lostkit, who will be due as an apprentice next month, is probably going to join or go along with Troutpaw. Well, she'd just try to get out of camp with him. I'd like to talk it over with River though. 

Red, I agree that the deliverance plot should be moving along more quickly. When should the next meeting be? I can put it on the calendar, which might help the word get out.

L, I think that's a great sideplot.

Kamira

1. that Frecklemask idea is interesting, and certainly could help build up tensions, but I'm not sure how many cats would actually get involved in criticizing her. Maybe a well known cat, like a deputy or leader, could criticize her publicly? That could stir things up some.

2. That idea about the apprentice fight club sounds good, I could certainly have my three new-warriors stir up trouble. Dieseltooth, in particular, is upset with Fencepaw for running off and would be eager to stir up trouble.

3. Again, I like the idea with Softlullaby. Though, SunClan's other camp...? As in, the very exposed one, the abandoned barn, or the loner city temporary camp? All of those have their own dangers and might end up causing the plot to lose focus. I think it would be best if she stayed in the camp, or at least didn't stray far. Keeping the heat on the clans within EclipseClan's camp will help build up drama the best.

4. Alright, just make sure it doesn't get in the way of the main plot. Maybe the clans could think they've been murdered?

5. Sure, I don't see any problem with that. I don't think it's relevant to the main plot, though.

6. Vigils have never really been a thing on this website, so I don't think we'd be able to pull that off without really forcing it.

River, you should probably check in with L and Spot to make sure that if they're caught, he won't get banished. Otherwise, sounds great!

For organizational reasons, I think we should move discussions of the apprentice fight club and other side plots to the actual Side Plot Planning Thread

If we want a little bit more suspicion and drama for the accusations on who killed who, Sweetpoison of Sunclan, who is interacting with Wolfclaw (brother of Stormfire, who is nosing her way into this whole catastrophe and is suspicious) she could be counted as a suspect. Sweetpoison isn't exactly innocent and naive either so it would make sense as for others to doubt her.

I agree. Deliverance is moving way too slow. Tangypaw is going to get accused in the next few days, so feel free to assist that fire.

@Ember - Ah, that's a good idea, thanks!

I can use some of my characters to get accused.

I could use possibly Desertpaw as well, Skypaw and Desertpaw in fightclub but Desert getting accused

Are the March gathering and medicine cat meeting not happening, because all the clans are sheltering in EclipseClan? The gathering I understand, there wouldn't be much of a point other than tradition, but does the same go for the medicine cat meeting?

So we've got lots of cats who can be accused. Now we need the accusers, and we need to make sure that the leaders/deputies/clans at large are involved in these confrontations. I think if we can get one accusation going, the discussion - if everyone gets involved - might naturally lead to several more characters being accused of the murders. Is anyone in a good position to start one of the accusations right now?

If anyone has a few MC cats who could get riled up with the accusations against Tangy, seeing as it’s planned to be coming from a different clan apprentice, that’d flow well. Lot’s of angry kitties!

@Tangy: Smallpaw would probably defend her.

That’ll work. The apprentice won’t have hardly any actual evidence against her, so I doubt any actual punishment will result from it.

Kamira, Poseidon could continue to argue with Frecklemask. He's the type who would be pretty unrelenting, but just civilized enough that while his dissent won't get him banned, it might get him some supporters. If that's possible? I feel like we had a good thing going earlier and that might be able to add to the general tension around the murders. By having Frecklemask undermined from within her own clan as well as from MoonClan - well, double the trouble, double the something or other. Yeah, math.