Warrior Cats of the Forest
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Hi guys!
Recently there’s been some talk of deviating from our original plan to move EarthClan into DawnClan’s former territory and EclipseClan’s formation as outlined on the Planned Events Section of the History Page, toward a more peaceful route.
Either way, I think the most important thing is that whichever way we want to go, we should start actually heading that direction. The plot has been disappointingly stagnant lately, and we could risk losing all momentum with this plot if we don’t act fast.
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So, I would like to propose a compromise between the violent and peaceful routes that would allow us to act relatively quickly and ultimately end in the peaceful options and natural disasters that members have been leaning toward lately:
As leafbare arrives, some sort of natural disaster (potentially a severe blizzard) or animal attack (wolves don?t really live there, but it would need to be something that one clan couldn?t reasonably deal with on their own) forces EarthClan to call a gathering and ask for help from the others. This meeting will descend into bickering, and either MoonClan or SunClan will start to leave, declaring EarthClan?s problem to not be their responsibility. As this happens, a solar eclipse will occur and the clans will interpret this as a sign from StarClan that they must work together or all be destroyed. They will then proceed to actually work together and solve the problem- whatever we decide that could be- and in the process begin to respect each other. The clans will regroup and discuss what happened, deciding that the eclipse also meant that StarClan intends for EarthClan to remain, and their wishes should be respected, but will be hesitant about allowing them to remain with such a large territory they can barely keep a hold of, while the NightClanners (who will have fought alongside the other clans) have been left with nothing. EarthClan will then agree to move into DawnClan?s territory and the NightClanners will move back into their old territory and take the name EclipseClan.
As leafbare arrives, some sort of natural disaster (potentially a severe blizzard) or animal attack (wolves don?t really live there, but it would need to be something that one clan couldn?t reasonably deal with on their own) forces EarthClan to call a gathering and ask for help from the others. This meeting will descend into bickering, and either MoonClan or SunClan will start to leave, declaring EarthClan?s problem to not be their responsibility. As this happens, a solar eclipse will occur and the clans will interpret this as a sign from StarClan that they must work together or all be destroyed. They will then proceed to actually work together and solve the problem- whatever we decide that could be- and in the process begin to respect each other. The clans will regroup and discuss what happened, deciding that the eclipse also meant that StarClan intends for EarthClan to remain, and their wishes should be respected, but will be hesitant about allowing them to remain with such a large territory they can barely keep a hold of, while the NightClanners (who will have fought alongside the other clans) have been left with nothing. EarthClan will then agree to move into DawnClan?s territory and the NightClanners will move back into their old territory and take the name EclipseClan.
Wait, are we still going to have this said gathering take place at the moonstone?
Maybe a bear can settle in Dawnclans old territory and poisonous snakes can invade Sunclans territory? By invade I mean they aren't native so they've invaded the ecosystem where the cats live because they've been released into the wild. Also, I've been thinking, and what if Earthclan doesn't call a gathering, but instead the clans all meet at the moonstone at the same time by coincidence? Like Earthclan comes to speak to starclan about the bear/whatever we decide, Sunclan could go because of the snakes if you like that idea, and Moonclan and the Nightclan Rebels are already talking about meeting at the moonstone to talk to starclan about fighting Earthclan.
Staghoove, I don't think a few adult bears are necessary or realistic, but I do like the idea of one black bear and maybe two of her cubs would work great.
Snakes aren't likely to work because of timing, venomous snakes tend to be adapted to Michigan winters and certainly wouldn't be breeding enough to cause a clan-wide problem. As well, how would the snakes force the clans to band together? They would be spread out, so the clans would face them just as well on their own.
Spirit, we could, but we don't have to. I think the best time for a Moonstone meeting to happen would be after the animal attack, when the clans have already started on their way to peace.
The bear could be traversing several of the territories, including the outskirts of the city. We could make it particularly scary but having no cats actually see the bear, but rather see the distruction (cracked twigs, tracks, etc) it leaves in its wake and not recognize the smell. So, the clans won't know what they're up against and we can take advantage of that to make them even more scared and willing to work together.
I do like the idea of having the clans meet together, rather than having one clan call the meeting, but I'm not very drawn to the idea of a coincidence. Perhaps we could have the medicine cats set up the meeting when it becomes apparent that the bears are affecting everyone.
Snakes aren't likely to work because of timing, venomous snakes tend to be adapted to Michigan winters and certainly wouldn't be breeding enough to cause a clan-wide problem. As well, how would the snakes force the clans to band together? They would be spread out, so the clans would face them just as well on their own.
Spirit, we could, but we don't have to. I think the best time for a Moonstone meeting to happen would be after the animal attack, when the clans have already started on their way to peace.
The bear could be traversing several of the territories, including the outskirts of the city. We could make it particularly scary but having no cats actually see the bear, but rather see the distruction (cracked twigs, tracks, etc) it leaves in its wake and not recognize the smell. So, the clans won't know what they're up against and we can take advantage of that to make them even more scared and willing to work together.
I do like the idea of having the clans meet together, rather than having one clan call the meeting, but I'm not very drawn to the idea of a coincidence. Perhaps we could have the medicine cats set up the meeting when it becomes apparent that the bears are affecting everyone.
I like the sound of that. Mother bears are extremely protective of their cubs so that could make it a tougher battle seeing as she would most likely attempt to jump to the rescue of her cubs each time they are attacked.
That was my thought as well.
To be clear, we don't have to go with this idea. We can simply go with the leaders meeting at the Moonstone and working this out, or the way outlined on the history page, depending on what y'all think is best.
To be clear, we don't have to go with this idea. We can simply go with the leaders meeting at the Moonstone and working this out, or the way outlined on the history page, depending on what y'all think is best.
I feel like the bears would kill a lot of cats, and unless everyone has at least 1 they want dead, it wouldn't be exactly the ideal predator. Black bears are fairly small in size, and three Clans taking on just one of them would only allow for about 7ish cats. I think that a good predator that would drive EarthClan to ask for assitance would be either coyotes or a cougar. These two animals are indiginous to where the Clans are located and arent a massive takedown toll. A mother cougar can be just as rampant as a mother bear.
I'm leaning more toward the idea of a cougar than a handful of coyotes, as it would force the clans to drive out the one attacker (and possibly her cubs) as a whole, rather than hunting down a handful of scattered coyotes like they usually do for foxes and badgers as individual clans.
I do like the idea of a mother cougar and her cubs. I feel like that would be a good predator especially if we base it off of how the canon was. One cougar can stop an entire clan in its tracks. Add the cubs to make the mother more protective, even the cubs can be killers. If we throw coyotes in at MoonClan and foxes in SunClan, I feel like it could really get things going again.
Out of curiosity, why do you think there should also be foxes rather than just the coyote? We could do that, but I'm not seeing the necessity.
Well, i was thinking that the coyotes wouldn't be a major problem like the cougars would be. I was thinking that coyotes could pick off a few of the injured cats after the battle with the cougar (depending on if anyone wants to get rid of any characters) because it would further push the Clans to seek refuge through one another. Coyotes also work in units. Foxes either travel solo, in pairs, or *rarely* in trios.
Oh, sorry, that was a typo! I meant to ask Mockingdeath why she wanted the foxes in addition to the cougar, not the coyotes. I agree that cougars are a better plot point than coyotes. We could go with them swooping in after the cougar, though, or we can go with foxes at that point. I'm still not really seeing the point of complicating the plot like that, though. Maybe we could leave that as an option and reevaluate when we get there?
If it's alright with y'all, I think we should push the gathering back a week so that we can go ahead with the first cougar sightings/attacks and not have to call a second gathering so soon after one (probably pointless) gathering.
I can go with the gathering being pushed back. I agree, it makes more sense than having two gatherings in one month. I have a character that I wouldn't mind being killed by the cougar to ignite the fire before the gathering if you wouldn't mind that happening.
Yeah, having a cat die would certainly make the situation more dire. Perhaps a whole patrol could be wiped out? Depending on the clan, I can probably offer up a character. That does depend on people being online with cats they want to get rid of, though, so having just a character or two get offed also works.
I have some characters who I sadly never use that I think would go to better use as background characters who get killed if you decide you want to have this cougar/fox/coyote/ whatever kill some clan cats.
Cool! I'll go ahead and adjust the calendar and planned events section on the history page this evening.
I'm sorry for my constantly trying to make myself important to the overall plot, but I'm still trying to find a way for StoneStory to get a grip on some form of power so he can start doing stuff.
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