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New Clans Planning

Posted by Ember on August 18, 2017 at 5:05 PM

Update: a formal poll regarding the new clan's name can be found here. Once you complete the poll, there will be an option to "see previous responses" that will let you see where everyone else is standing. If it's close or we get a bunch of "other" responses, we could potentially re-poll.

The vote on what to do about EarthClan closed yesterday, with those in support of keeping EarthClan and forming a new clan receiving the most votes. While this new clan won’t be able to actually come together until we have EarthClan moved into DawnClan’s territory, we should start planning for the new clan now so we know what they want to be when they are formed.

Please limit discussion of how we will form this clan to what immediately affect the clan’s identity. Keeping plot-planning to the actual Plot Planning Blog Entry will help us keep on-topic here as we focus on building up two new clan identities. As well, this is not the place to discuss who will be the leader of the new clan. I will decide who it will be using our usual criteria and announce the new leader and deputy closer to when the clan is formed. The best thing you can do now to increase your chances is participating actively in this blog and following the suggestions on the How Leaders and Deputies are Chosen.

I think the best way to go about this would be to see what the established clans are based on, and then use that as a framework for building EarthClan and the new, still unnamed clan. So, here is more or less what I believe each clan identity boils down to.


MoonClan

  • Proud/arrogant, honorable, and courageous
  • Conformist and the most nationalistic clan
  • Moderately skilled hunters and fighters
  • Highly value discipline; regimented day to day lives; strict clan hierarchy
  • Suspicious of outsiders
  • Strong belief in StarClan and The Warrior Code

NightClan

  • Cunning, fierce, and ambitious.
  • Individualistic
  • Strong fighters but weak hunters, mostly scavenge for food
  • Loose clan hierarchy and administration, with a low value placed on discipline
  • Very accepting of outsiders
  • Weak belief in StarClan and in the value of the Warrior Code

DawnClan

  • Peaceful, compassionate, and forgiving.
  • Individualistic with low value on discipline
  • Moderate hunters and weak fighters, have the unique skill of fishing
  • Paternalistic leadership style with a flexible hierarchy and a Leisurely day to day existence
  • Moderately accepting of outsiders
  • Moderate belief in StarClan and generally follow the Warrior Code

SunClan

  • Cautious, intelligent, strive to embody “clan before the individual.”
  • Value teamwork and place little stock in the individual; conformist
  • Strong hunters but weak fighters
  • Strict leadership style and hierarchy, highly demanding expectations of warriors
  • Suspicious of outsiders
  • Moderate belief in StarClan, but follow The Warrior Code to the letter.


Based on those facts, here’s one direction we could potentially go with the new clans, assuming that EarthClan ends up in DawnClan’s old territory and the NightClan rebels resettle in NightClan’s old territory and form the new clan.


New Clan (Possible names: EclipseClan, SkyClan, CometClan, GalaxyClan, NovaClan, MeteorClan, NebulaClan, please suggest more)

  • Resourceful, fierce, domineering
  • Individualistic
  • Strong fighters but weak hunters, mostly scavenge for food
  • Rigid clan hierarchy and administration, with each rank asserting themselves over lower ranks
  • Moderately accepting of outsiders. Only accepts those who they deem strong enough, or alternatively, those who actually seem committed to their clan. Expect all outsiders to assimilate into clan life.
  • Weak belief in StarClan, but a high degree of value in Warrior Code

EarthClan

  • Tolerant, compassionate, and grounded
  • Individualistic with low value on discipline, strives to encourage each cat’s strengths rather than make a uniform
  • Moderate hunters and weak fighters, have the unique skill of fishing
  • Paternalistic leadership style with a flexible hierarchy and a Leisurely day to day existence
  • Very accepting of outsiders
  • Extremely variable beliefs in StarClan and the Warrior Code


Of course, this is only one way to go about it, and I want to hear all of your thoughts on which direction we should head in to creating these new clans.

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79 Comments

Reply Gingerheart
6:25 PM on August 18, 2017 
I agree with Pallet, I think EclipseClan would work pretty well. My bro decided to get nosy and suggested TitanClan since Titan is a one of Jupiter's moons and in mythology they were great warriors who were very strong and pretty much undefeated. I'm not sure how well that would work for this, but my bro told me to suggest it so here it is...
Reply DrownedInRed
6:35 PM on August 18, 2017 
The if there is a plot event if the clan is named Eclipse, I was thinking that they could try to take out Sunclan

yet having them block out belief of Starclan, like Sol, would be interesting. But I think Eclipseclan would be the best name for this new clan, since it relates to it well
Reply spotthecat
6:46 PM on August 18, 2017 
I think EclispeClan would work rather well and actually reminds me a lot of Nightclan, since many cats had come from the city and didn't know much about Starclan in the first place, which I think it would be good to have another 'evil' type of clan.
Reply Shade
9:37 PM on August 18, 2017 
I like the name EclipseClan, it definitely goes along with our theme of clan names. It is rather intimidating, and could come in good use when in battle or at gatherings. Unfortunately, I think there would be a lot of heat based around this new clan.
Reply Kixatanilopay
9:43 PM on August 18, 2017 
I think EclipseClan is a good name as well. It really signifies their commitment to the Warrior Code and how shadowed their beilefs are with StarClan. With how weak their relationship is with StarClan, it could mean that they are resentful to other Clans who DO strongly believe in StarClan and it causes them to butt heads.
Reply Shade
9:52 PM on August 18, 2017 
I do think I will have some of my SunClan cats move to the New Clan. (Downwardpaw and Burningpaw.) Both of these cats would have overwhelming power in some way or another if they moved. I don't know if anyone wants to take this into consideration, but cats moving from different clans to the New Clan could be interesting.
Reply DrownedInRed
10:06 PM on August 18, 2017 
Shade, I agree, Perhaps Redflare should move, since it fits his personality more lol. But It would, and possibly some Rebels as well
Reply Ember
10:36 PM on August 18, 2017 
I think that NovaClan sounds cool, but would our characters reasonably have any connection to that word?
I?d rather keep away from names like Rift and such, so it doesn?t sound like they are purely in response to EarthClan and aren?t connected to the rest of the theme. As for other planet/moon names, I think it would sound weird if we did one and not the others. That is, why MarsClan or TitanClan and not, say, VenusClan?
Having EclipseClan be named after an actual eclipse that occurs when they are formed would make sense, and gets us away from the trap of why a bunch of NightClanners founding a clan wouldn?t just call it NightClan.
Spot, I think we should definitely keep the more ?evil? side to one of our clans, since a lot of people liked that about NightClan.
Shade, why would those apprentices have overwhelming power? I feel like I missed something.

Also, those outlines I put in for the new clans aren?t final, I just wanted them to be a starting points. If you guys have any ideas or disagree with something, please speak up.
Reply Blossom
11:00 PM on August 18, 2017 
Another vote for EclipseClan.
NovaClan sounds cool, but it's just too shiny and out there for the cats. EclipseClan seems to fit the general naming vibe more.
It kind of bother me that EarthClan doesn't really fit the theme. There aren't any planet names..
Reply Ember
11:02 PM on August 18, 2017 
My original reason behind EarthClan was a more elegant way of saying "DirtClan" or "GroundClan." So, something more about what they are grounded on, rather than some big ball in space.
Reply Shadowstorm
11:05 PM on August 18, 2017 
I vote for Eclipseclan
Reply Blossom
11:08 PM on August 18, 2017 
Ohhhh..
SunClan is down to earthish?
Reply Spirit and the gang
11:14 PM on August 18, 2017 
I vote for Eclipseclan! It sounds so epic!
Reply DrownedInRed
11:15 PM on August 18, 2017 
Agreed lol Eclipse for the win
Reply River
11:57 PM on August 18, 2017 
Kind of playing the devil's advocate here, but I'd just like to point out what makes it sound a bit unnatural compared with the other clan names (to me) (completely in my opinion). To be clear, I'm not trying to go against the consensus, at all, and I'm not saying that I'm entirely against this clan, I'd just like to bring light to some aspects of the name 'EclipseClan' that we should take into consideration.

First, look at all four of these clan names together, and read them aloud, preferably.
MoonClan - SunClan - EarthClan - EclipseClan
EclipseClan jumps out quite prominently (again, in my opinion), breaking the two-syllable symmetry of the names. In the past, with Moon, Night, Dawn, and Sun, we had a perfect two-syllable symmetry in the names, making them sound quite natural as a group. This part may seem slightly trivial, but in the history of this site, of the eight past or present clan names (excluding StarClan) (Moon, Night, Dawn, Sun, Bone, Storm, Earth, and River), seven of these eight have been two syllable names, allowing them to mesh quite well.
Secondly, the name EclipseClan has quite a noticeable alliteration (eCLipseCLan), that none of the other clan names have in any way, making it sound a bit unnatural with the other three.
Next, like Blossom mentioned in reference to a 'NovaClan', EclipseClan sounds a bit extravagant, compared to the other clan names. Moon, Sun, and Earth are all rather normal, everyday things, however an eclipse is a rather rare celestial event. This could represent an arrogance or assertion over the other clans, in game, but it makes it sound a bit unnatural compared to the other clan names.
And, finally, when we look at our three current clan names, we can see a bit of a theme that relates a bit more to these cats than the general celestial bodies theme. All the clan names seem to represent the fundamentals of clan life - the sun guides their days, the moon governs their nights, and the earth is the grounding beneath them that keeps them stable. An eclipse, meanwhile, doesn't seem like one of these necessities, or fundamentals. This un-fundamental name might seem to steal a bit of StarClan's glory, as well, when seen in a certain light. Something like SkyClan might follow this theme better, as the limitless sky that reminds them of their boundless dreams and aspirations.

Again, I have no intention of causing major discord here, or of saying that Eclipse is a bad idea for a name, I'm just providing points that may be important to be aware of when considering the name EclipseClan.
(And, personally, my vote's for SkyClan or a SkyClan-esque name)
Reply River
12:38 PM on August 19, 2017 
Also, about a name that would relate to all of the other three, and not just be the opposite of one, SkyClan could complete the set, in a way, if you look at it in terms of the four commonly recognised elements. The moon is often associated with water, since it controls the tides, the sun is associated with fire, due to its heat and brightness, the earth is, obviously, earth, and the sky could represent air.
Reply Mockingdeath & Co.
2:10 PM on August 19, 2017 
River does make some pretty good points. I think SkyClan would work very well (but it was part of the eris so I don't know). I do really like EclipseClan too. But I'd really only back that if it was formed on the Eclipse that's happening in two days. I'm not too particular on the name of the new clan,so I'm stuck between Sky, Nova and Eclipse.
Reply Ember
2:26 PM on August 19, 2017 
River, I agree with you on how EclipseClan is a little bit clunky and agree that SkyClan fits better into our theme.

For me, it ultimately comes down to whether we want to use SkyClan despite the canon SkyClan. I don?t have any connection to the canon SkyClan since I never read the books where it was relevant, so I personally think the connection isn?t very distracting. As well, SkyClan works well for a city clan that doesn?t have quite the same connection to the natural world as the other clans aside from weather, and can reach the greatest physical heights by climbing up twoleg structures.

Mocking, there?s no way that we?re going to have the new clan formed in just two days. We may be able to have the clan formed in an in-game eclipse, though.
Reply Kixatanilopay
2:40 PM on August 19, 2017 
I'm just going to throw some names out there as a suggestion. DuskClan? It kind of follows the theme, but at the same time it doesn't really go along with EarthClan too well. I was also thinking TwilightClan, but it has the exact issue that EclipseClan has. Although it doesn't sound too odd; it doesn't roll off the tongue like the others do. For now, my vote is undecided. I'll vote tomorrow.
Reply spotthecat
2:45 PM on August 19, 2017 
Perhaps a names like Marshclan Murkclan, Fogclan, Cloudclan or Smokeclan? It sounds a bit soft, but clouds can often cover the sun. Just throwing out a bunch of clan names.

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