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Hello everyone! The Planned Events section of The History Page is looking pretty pitiful and conversation wasn’t flowing on the last blog entry. As a quick refresher, all of the clans attended a gathering last week. Lightningstar asked DawnClan to give their former territory back, but so far nothing has come of it. While NightClan and DawnClan should be moving toward an alliance, Scarletstar seemed reluctant to help them.
The biggest problem I’m seeing right now is that the clans don’t have much reason to ally with each other. MoonClan and DawnClan have obvious reasons to be at odds, but NightClan and SunClan would be safer staying out of it. SunClan has no reason to get involved so far and if they do, the safer option would be to place their bet with NightClan and DawnClan where they won’t be in much danger of defeat. So we need to find a way to scare them into allying themselves with MoonClan. As well, do you want to keep them going in the current strict direction? As I mentioned above, Scarletstar doesn’t seem very interested in helping out DawnClan and frankly, I don’t know why she should be. How would you like to push DawnClan and NightClan together?
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We could make some DawnClanners seek help in NightClan, along with their leader and after some thought and consideration, Scarletstar would let them in, but on one term. That DawnClan, once healthy will remain their ally for a certain amount of time etc. I know Scarletstar will want all the strength she can get, so maybe after they get the alliance sorted, some cat spreads word to SunClan and MoonClan so they feel pressured to form an alliance too, as by then DawnClan will be getting in better shape from shared food.
Hm, that could work for DawnClan and NightClan and could push MoonClan to go to SunClan for help, but why would SunClan agree? It seems like the safest move for them would be to stay out of the conflict entirely or to ally themselves with DawnClan and NightClan.
There could be some sort of dispute between Sunclan and Dawnclan or Nightclan so that they wouldn't want to ally with them.
Wait, real quick, I'm confused: do we want SunClan to ally with NightClan and DawnClan, or do we not want them to do that? Also, we want MoonClan to eventually ally with one of the clans right?
We could have the NightClanners continue to intrude on SunClan's territory.
SunClan should be allying themselves with MoonClan, but we don't know how to make that happen.
SunClan should be allying themselves with MoonClan, but we don't know how to make that happen.
If SunClan were to stay out of it then Scarletstar might pursue gaining some of SunClans territory for NightClan, but i don't know why they would turn to MoonClan instead of trying to ally with NightClan and DawnClan.
Why would NightClan want some of SunClan's territory? It just seems like kicking a hornet's nest. Hm, maybe they could try and force SunClan to allow DawnClanners to hunt on SunClan territory?
If we want them to join MoonClan, perhaps we could have them realize that NightClan and DawnClan are getting together and start fearing that NightClan may persuade them to attack SunClan, and then run to MoonClan so they have an ally?
Hm, why would NightClan want DawnClan to attack SunClan, they? It seems like they'd be making another enemy for no real reason.
This might be getting on more of a whole new major plot type thing, but maybe Scarlet could have plans to dominate the forest? I wouldn't mind that happening.
I suspect this if further than we'll probably want to go, but NightClan and DawnClan could temporarily merge together into one clan. Would Lightningstar go for that?
Dawnclan begins hunting in Sunclan territory because of a shortage of food since they don't have their territory back. It can be mainly new apprentices since meadowbreath was talking about how it was a mtter of time they would starve and what-not, so newly appointed or fairly new apprentices would panic a bit and start hunting in sunclan territory for try to keep their clan fed
@Ember. What would prompt the two clans to join forces. I kind of like that idea but to stabilize it they'd need a legitimate reason to join forces. Something like Nightclan is fed up with having mostly streets and alleyways and want some more greenery or they simply want to prove how strong they are and Dawnclan might want to show that they'd made a comeback and make an agreement to join forces. So with two supposedly strong clans banding together Moonclan and Sunclan would feel threatened and decide to create and alliance to protect each other since one clan can't beat two clans if a battle were to occur. I personally think that would be a good course of action if everyone wanted to do that.
Jump-starting the plot with a show of strength doesn't seem to be Scarletstar's style, so DawnClan seems the most likely to start an offensive if they want to get their territory back. As Lochflame has said, DawnClan can ally with NightClan on the basis of strengthening their clan. NIghtClan will want something in return, right?
DawnClan can eventually battle with MoonClan over the territory, the latter of whom has refused to return it, with NightClan as an ally. Of course they win 2-1, and NightClan will procure a piece of MoonClan's land (separate from DawnClan's) themselves. From here, maybe I can see how Scarletstar would start to get power-hungry and take advantage of MoonClan. By then, we'd probably have better reasons for MoonClan going to SunClan for help.
DawnClan can eventually battle with MoonClan over the territory, the latter of whom has refused to return it, with NightClan as an ally. Of course they win 2-1, and NightClan will procure a piece of MoonClan's land (separate from DawnClan's) themselves. From here, maybe I can see how Scarletstar would start to get power-hungry and take advantage of MoonClan. By then, we'd probably have better reasons for MoonClan going to SunClan for help.
Shiryuu- hm, I?m not sure if DawnClan would do that, considering it?s what got them in trouble with MoonClan in the first place?
Flower- Most NightClanners can?t properly hunt, so if they try and take territory it?s likely to be just to show off their strength for the sake of showing off their strength.
Ripple?I really like that idea, SunClan has something of a history with being dominated by other clans, so it?s easy to see why they?d start to get nervous over DawnClan and NightClan pushing MoonClan around like that.
Flower- Most NightClanners can?t properly hunt, so if they try and take territory it?s likely to be just to show off their strength for the sake of showing off their strength.
Ripple?I really like that idea, SunClan has something of a history with being dominated by other clans, so it?s easy to see why they?d start to get nervous over DawnClan and NightClan pushing MoonClan around like that.
Well it could be something that the warriors or leaders dont know
To answer the question of the merge: Lightningstar would have to have a really good reason for doing that, especially since she isn't the biggest fan of Scarletstar. Any help she requests from NightClan will already be grudging at best, she wouldn't hand total control over to Scarletstar.
It seems as though the problem has been, for the most part, sorted out; however, I'd like to propose yet another idea.
Perhaps MoonClan, seeing the threat of the DawnClan-NightClan alliance, and knowing that, in the past, they have aggravated DawnClan and rarely cooperated with NightClan, could grow scared that this is an alliance which will eventually instigate a war as DawnClan and NightClan use their combined force to squeeze territory out of the lonely MoonClan. Truly not wanting a war, but also not wanting to seem weak by returning their stolen territory to DawnClan (or, if we seek something more devious, simply not wanting to give their territory back to DawnClan because they like having it), MoonClan decides it has no choice but to gain SunClan as an ally. However, they can recognize that SunClan would have far more impetus to join DawnClan and NightClan - after all, it was not too long ago that a conflict with MoonClan forced SunClan to lose some territory (some time during the isolation, back when Darkstar was leader). And, of course, a three-clan alliance would be far too powerful - it would inevitably crush MoonClan. So, to win SunClan's favour, MoonClan might approach SunClan and tell the tale of how they, themselves, were approached by DawnClan and NightClan, offering a triple-alliance with the ultimate goal of attacking and defeating SunClan. Concerned about the "intentions" of DawnClan and NightClan, but thankful for the honesty and perceived friendship of MoonClan, SunClan agrees to a protective alliance with MoonClan which will hopefully stave off any conflict by discouraging an attack.
From there, we could move wherever we desired - the alliances would be formed and the tensions would rise accordingly.
On a different note, I always find it difficult to believe that NightClan really has any interest in partaking in these petty inter-clan affairs. They have no reasons to quarrel with the other clans over territory or prey, and they could far more easily and effectively prove their superiority by defeating city-gangs and bringing more useful territory under their control. When they were first formed by emigrants from MoonClan, then perhaps they had reason to interact with the forest clans, but now, it seems to me as though continually involving them in clan affairs is beginning to stretch the believability of their position, and of their attitudes towards the other clans.
Any way, the idea which I presented for the MoonClan-SunClan alliance could be used in conjunction with the other previously suggested ideas. The main issue which it fixes is the question of, "Why wouldn't SunClan join with DawnClan and NightClan?" It also provides an interesting plot point for use later - the deceit of MoonClan and SunClan's reaction to it.
Perhaps MoonClan, seeing the threat of the DawnClan-NightClan alliance, and knowing that, in the past, they have aggravated DawnClan and rarely cooperated with NightClan, could grow scared that this is an alliance which will eventually instigate a war as DawnClan and NightClan use their combined force to squeeze territory out of the lonely MoonClan. Truly not wanting a war, but also not wanting to seem weak by returning their stolen territory to DawnClan (or, if we seek something more devious, simply not wanting to give their territory back to DawnClan because they like having it), MoonClan decides it has no choice but to gain SunClan as an ally. However, they can recognize that SunClan would have far more impetus to join DawnClan and NightClan - after all, it was not too long ago that a conflict with MoonClan forced SunClan to lose some territory (some time during the isolation, back when Darkstar was leader). And, of course, a three-clan alliance would be far too powerful - it would inevitably crush MoonClan. So, to win SunClan's favour, MoonClan might approach SunClan and tell the tale of how they, themselves, were approached by DawnClan and NightClan, offering a triple-alliance with the ultimate goal of attacking and defeating SunClan. Concerned about the "intentions" of DawnClan and NightClan, but thankful for the honesty and perceived friendship of MoonClan, SunClan agrees to a protective alliance with MoonClan which will hopefully stave off any conflict by discouraging an attack.
From there, we could move wherever we desired - the alliances would be formed and the tensions would rise accordingly.
On a different note, I always find it difficult to believe that NightClan really has any interest in partaking in these petty inter-clan affairs. They have no reasons to quarrel with the other clans over territory or prey, and they could far more easily and effectively prove their superiority by defeating city-gangs and bringing more useful territory under their control. When they were first formed by emigrants from MoonClan, then perhaps they had reason to interact with the forest clans, but now, it seems to me as though continually involving them in clan affairs is beginning to stretch the believability of their position, and of their attitudes towards the other clans.
Any way, the idea which I presented for the MoonClan-SunClan alliance could be used in conjunction with the other previously suggested ideas. The main issue which it fixes is the question of, "Why wouldn't SunClan join with DawnClan and NightClan?" It also provides an interesting plot point for use later - the deceit of MoonClan and SunClan's reaction to it.
``Being almost to the point of cruel, this Russian Blue she-cat would gladly tear another cats throat out if asked.`` ~ Icestar's Description
& judging by Loch's determination put towards making this work, I think Scarletstar won't be an issue.
Maybe SunClan / NightClan just want to help MoonClan / DawnClan? Or they would like MoonClan / DawnClan to be in debt? Do SunClan and/or NightClan even need a reason? Have we thought about why SunClan WON'T join DawnClan & NightClan?
& judging by Loch's determination put towards making this work, I think Scarletstar won't be an issue.
Maybe SunClan / NightClan just want to help MoonClan / DawnClan? Or they would like MoonClan / DawnClan to be in debt? Do SunClan and/or NightClan even need a reason? Have we thought about why SunClan WON'T join DawnClan & NightClan?
I agree that Nightclan would have it's interests not directed at land used by the other clans since they know little about actual hunting and whatnot. Expanding in the environment they know all too well would prove more beneficial and much easier considering they'd be dealing with small groups of untrained, feuding rogues. However Nightclan cannot ignore the fact that it is a piece of a puzzle, one that without it couldn't be balanced properly. Nightclan can't afford to stay absent from forest clan affairs, which make 3/4 of the seesaw that is clan politics.
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