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Hi everyone!
Since there hasn’t been much interest in the Isolation Plot recently, we’ve moved to discussing how we’re going to bring the clans back together.
To tie together a few different suggestions together, DawnClan is currently sending a patrol to SunClan to tip them off that NightClan has been crossing through their territory. SunClan will begin more heavily patrolling the NightClan border, where we could have some skirmishes. Kingfish will then take a small band of NightClan’s best fighters to SunClan’s camp and kill a few cats, possibly kits and queens. SunClan, having already started considering an alliance with MoonClan, could then go to Sneakstar and ask for support in attacking NightClan. MoonClan, who’ve had their own problems with NightClan recently, will agree to the alliance.
Meanwhile, NightClan doesn’t know that it is DawnClan that originally tipped off SunClan to the invaders and will turn to them for support. DawnClan, who have reason to fear MoonClan and are desperate to regain their lost territory, will accept the alliance with NightClan and possibly attack MoonClan.
If you haven’t already, please look over the previous Plot Planning Blog Entry for all the details of these individual plots, I’ve only presented one way we can string them together and have left out some of the intricacies.
As well, we need to decide what we’re going to do with the spies and whether we’re going to stick with SunClan’s strict culture –which has not been particularly enforced- and DawnClan’s civil war.
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Yeah. Little Singingkit is working on melting him into mush XD Or we can go with the confetti thing xD
But back to the plotting. The gathering thing sounds interesting. What with having them all happening to go there at the same time. I'd like to see how that all turns out.
could there be a bit more elaborated on the med cat meetings? Medicine cats probably wouldn't go to gossip about their clans like warriors and apprentices might. I would imagine they'd likely only be for them to discuss medicinal stuff and for newer medicine cats and medicine cat apprentices to introduce themselves. Those wouldn't affect the plot? Would they?
But back to the plotting. The gathering thing sounds interesting. What with having them all happening to go there at the same time. I'd like to see how that all turns out.
could there be a bit more elaborated on the med cat meetings? Medicine cats probably wouldn't go to gossip about their clans like warriors and apprentices might. I would imagine they'd likely only be for them to discuss medicinal stuff and for newer medicine cats and medicine cat apprentices to introduce themselves. Those wouldn't affect the plot? Would they?
It depends on what you and Shadow can agree on, it doesn?t really matter what happens to Kingfish from a plot-level as long as he isn?t a substantial impediment to NightClan?s unity. That said, NightClan will have an easier time making an alliance with DawnClan if they don?t have a known killer among their ranks, even if he?s behaving himself now.
xD I think you?re giving medicine cats a bit much credit on the no-gossiping front, in fact, I?ve relied on their gossipiness to spread information around clans in the past. That said, I don?t think there?s reason not to have medicine cat meetings, so if those of y?all with medicine cats would like to hold them, we can go ahead. The next one would fall on November 18th, which is still a while out, so the clans should be more unified by then.
xD I think you?re giving medicine cats a bit much credit on the no-gossiping front, in fact, I?ve relied on their gossipiness to spread information around clans in the past. That said, I don?t think there?s reason not to have medicine cat meetings, so if those of y?all with medicine cats would like to hold them, we can go ahead. The next one would fall on November 18th, which is still a while out, so the clans should be more unified by then.
I plan on having Kami and Knox helping Kingfish quite a alot. Kami more than Knox though.
Is there a way my Moonclan cats can get involved?
Is there a way my Moonclan cats can get involved?
Alright, the main stuff that Ember listed sounds good. Should Flamestar get those terrible injuries now that the DC civil war is going on and Lakepath is attacking her? In that case, Lightningstar or someone else would have to lead the patrol to SC.
Even though she doesn't agree with it, since it was one of her last wishes Lightningstrike would still send the patrol out to SunClan. It would probably be best for Flamestar to receive the injuries over the course of the battle, since another one is unlikely start after this massacre.
I've had an individual plot thing going about a gang that Kingfish originated from called the Wendigos, which is a large gang that doesn't function together as a group, but does use its mass to overpower and take over other gangs' territories (they're also cannibalistic as their name suggests, but that's besides the point). I wasn't sure if I should bring it up in the Plot Planning page, since we already had a lot of ideas bouncing around, but perhaps they could start encroaching on NightClan's territory, and Kingfish & Co. try to work something out with Scarletstar to get rid of them, since they would likely try to slaughter the clan? Yes, it's a little self-serving for Kingfish, but it could work out well for his lackeys, too, as they'd be working for the common good of the clan, also helping Scarletstar. Potentially, it could also save the other clans, depending on how it gets spun, but it would be definitely a mini plot as the Wendigos, being unorganized for the most part, would be easy to run off if a big enough group came after them, and the "invasion" of the territory wouldn't have to last long; a couple days at best. Perhaps it could mend issues between Kingfish and Scarletstar? I'm making changes with Kingfish's character, but I know that Scarlet wouldn't see that unless he did something to prove he's trying to work with her, not against her.
Alright, well, Flamestar will be losing her lives now. Maybe just one if we need a sudden change, but this seems like the most reasonable time.
I feel like we should all work on the plots together and not have a single person bring in a new one. I believe that's what the plot planning page is for.
💀Spoopy💀 says...
I feel like we should all work on the plots together and not have a single person bring in a new one. I believe that's what the plot planning page is for.
That's why I brought it up, so everyone could weigh in on it and possibly have a hand in it if it goes far enough. Besides, Ember said I should bring it up, since I told it to her first.
Maybe we should try and think about Moonclan and Sunclan though? Most plot ideas that we are putting out are just for Dawnclan and Nightclan, leaving the pool for the others kinda empty. Your plot does sound interesting, but personally I think it might be a little much, since we have already squeezed in a lot. I don't want to overdo it
That's my concern as well, that we might have too much going on in NightClan. If the plot stays mostly between Kingfish and Scarletstar (and Shadow agrees) we could go ahead with it.
I'm hoping to rekindle the SunClan plot. The head warriors got switched out a bit and a third is on the way, but that will likely only help to increase the number of eyes on the clan. Does anyone have a specific idea to move them forward? Would y'all like to keep with the extremist plot, or head a different direction entirely/
I'm hoping to rekindle the SunClan plot. The head warriors got switched out a bit and a third is on the way, but that will likely only help to increase the number of eyes on the clan. Does anyone have a specific idea to move them forward? Would y'all like to keep with the extremist plot, or head a different direction entirely/
I like the idea of the head warriors thing. Since we're going with unity among the clans, perhaps MoonClan/any other clan could start seeing the head warriors system, possibly noticing how much more organized it seems, or how preposterous it seems since they have a deputy, why would they need more warriors to have special privileges? So, this could cause the clans to start questioning their structure?
If not that idea, you could also have SunClan start a cult among the head warriors, with them possibly trying to make themselves the head of the clan, basically converting it something similar to the politics of the UK, where you have the King/Queen (leader in this case) acts as a focus, and rallies the country (clan), while the Prime Minister (head warriors) make the rules and keep order.
If not that idea, you could also have SunClan start a cult among the head warriors, with them possibly trying to make themselves the head of the clan, basically converting it something similar to the politics of the UK, where you have the King/Queen (leader in this case) acts as a focus, and rallies the country (clan), while the Prime Minister (head warriors) make the rules and keep order.
I like the idea of the mention of a hierarchy, but perhaps maybe some of the clan's refuse head warriors or something, perhaps maybe Moonclan. I'm not sure though, as I don't know how Fadedstar would think, but maybe they could refuse because it brings Moonclan back to the standard around the Rise of the Medicine Cat timing, but that's just an idea. What I'm really throwing out there is the whole Nationlisf/Traditionlist thing, where some clans go ahead and make head warriors while others say it's," not clan lifestyle," and continue on with their regular higher ups.
Sorry to hand on the DawnClan ploy still, but should I have Nightmist be discovered as a spy in DawnClan's ranks, saying that she knew Flamestar once and regrets all the trouble her Clan (MoonClan) has caused? That and her Disappearance during the battle with MoonClan could start raising suspiciouns.
💀Spoopy💀 says...
I like the idea of the mention of a hierarchy, but perhaps maybe some of the clan's refuse head warriors or something, perhaps maybe Moonclan. I'm not sure though, as I don't know how Fadedstar would think, but maybe they could refuse because it brings Moonclan back to the standard around the Rise of the Medicine Cat timing, but that's just an idea. What I'm really throwing out there is the whole Nationlisf/Traditionlist thing, where some clans go ahead and make head warriors while others say it's," not clan lifestyle," and continue on with their regular higher ups.
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that too
MoonClan, if they are historical enough, would look back and go, "Wait a minute! We've seen this before!" and refrain from assigning head warriors.
Ember says...
That's my concern as well, that we might have too much going on in NightClan. If the plot stays mostly between Kingfish and Scarletstar (and Shadow agrees) we could go ahead with it.
I'm hoping to rekindle the SunClan plot. The head warriors got switched out a bit and a third is on the way, but that will likely only help to increase the number of eyes on the clan. Does anyone have a specific idea to move them forward? Would y'all like to keep with the extremist plot, or head a different direction entirely/
If the plot stays mainly focused on King and Scarlet, even for the time being wouldn't it bee a bit unfair to some of the other members? Im not pointing fingers but Kingfish has had a fair bit of plot spotlight in NightClan. But if you'd like to go along with that im fine with it.
Lochflame says...
If the plot stays mainly focused on King and Scarlet, even for the time being wouldn't it bee a bit unfair to some of the other members? Im not pointing fingers but Kingfish has had a fair bit of plot spotlight in NightClan. But if you'd like to go along with that im fine with it.
Yeah, I agree as well. Scarletstar and Kingfish is the main focus, and this is kinda why we don't even have prophecies, to prevent the whole site from revolving around one character just to be in the plot. People would say "No,he isn't taking the spotlight. Just look a Dawnclan," but the reality is that Dawnclan doesn't have a main character. Then add in the plan to have the clans ally together and boom. It all ties up to Kingfish
That was poor wording on my part. I meant that it would be a personal plot as in, rather than dominating NightClan's plot, it would just stay between the two of them and not affect the clan as a whole in any meaningful way. Kind of like a little spat between mates-- a personal plot. I don't know how realistic that would be, perhaps Kingfish can just thwart one assassination plot, instead of involving the whole clan against a gang?
It's mainly up to you, Shadow. I think if you have the time for it and Scarletstar would go along, then there's no real reason not to have that little personal, one-on-one arc. Otherwise, we can keep NightClan's focus entirely on their future DawnClan alliance. I know time zones are an obstacle and Scarletstar shouldn't be distracted by Kingfish if that gets in your way of having her attend to the site-wide plot.
It's mainly up to you, Shadow. I think if you have the time for it and Scarletstar would go along, then there's no real reason not to have that little personal, one-on-one arc. Otherwise, we can keep NightClan's focus entirely on their future DawnClan alliance. I know time zones are an obstacle and Scarletstar shouldn't be distracted by Kingfish if that gets in your way of having her attend to the site-wide plot.
Ember says...
That was poor wording on my part. I meant that it would be a personal plot as in, rather than dominating NightClan's plot, it would just stay between the two of them and not affect the clan as a whole in any meaningful way. Kind of like a little spat between mates-- a personal plot. I don't know how realistic that would be, perhaps Kingfish can just thwart one assassination plot, instead of involving the whole clan against a gang?
It's mainly up to you, Shadow. I think if you have the time for it and Scarletstar would go along, then there's no real reason not to have that little personal, one-on-one arc. Otherwise, we can keep NightClan's focus entirely on their future DawnClan alliance. I know time zones are an obstacle and Scarletstar shouldn't be distracted by Kingfish if that gets in your way of having her attend to the site-wide plot.
Yeah, I agree, the Scarletstar and Kingfish thing should be a more personal plot, not a site-wide plot. :3
But also on the site-wide plot topic, do we have any other ideas about SunClan's plot? And is anything monumental/specific going to happen in MoonClan?
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