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Isolation Plot Planning III

Posted by Ember on September 1, 2016 at 2:10 AM

Hi everyone! If you haven’t already, please review the Planned Events portion of the History Page.

In our last plot planning entry, we decided to have the MoonClan/DawnClan battle take place this coming weekend (September 2nd-4th). However, we need to plan how we are going to escalate a skirmish between rogue DawnClaners and a MoonClan patrol to a large battle including the majority of both clans.

There are some more plot ideas that have been floating around for a while but need to be fleshed out, such as when the MoonClan spies are discovered in DawnClan, what will the chain of events be that lead DawnClan to send out spies of their own, and then the other clans to follow suit? As well, what are we doing with the prisoners NightClan has taken? My assumption would be that the other clans will take NightClan prisoners and attempt to trade hostages. However, we could have the other clans attack NightClan if the kidnapping continues, or if NightClan refuses to give up their prisoners in return for the captured NightClanners.

There have been a few plot elements that have been neglected lately, so I’d like to remind everyone that NightClan should be shifting into a violent, eager-to-prove-themselves mindset, while SunClan becomes very strict and single-minded in the pursuit of building up their clan’s strength. Incorporating these ideas into your cats’ day-to-day interactions will help push things forward much more than individual “larger” plot points will.

Aspenstar and Poppystar will both be retiring this month, how do we want to handle that?  Spicy, Lilywish, would you like them to retire, be killed, or...?

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162 Comments

Reply Alienfish
11:26 AM on September 4, 2016 
I'm all for improvised plots, so long as something actually happens with them. It may be that I haven't been around long enough to see improvisation work effectively, but from what I have seen, whenever things are left to be improvised, the site-wide plot takes weeks to advance. If we're going with improvisation, I'm all for it, so long as it doesn't cause the plot to stagnate. (Again, that perception may not be a widely shared one, so my apologies if I'm uninformed.)
Reply Silverwind (busy)
11:30 AM on September 4, 2016 
Perhaps we can improvise, but then plot more if things start to slow down? That way it will progress more naturally, but can have a bit of a nudge every now and again if things slow down? Just to keep things moving in the right direction?
Reply River
11:42 AM on September 4, 2016 
I think the main reason improvised plots don't work that well is because people are too afraid to make big moves and get events started, because they think that they'll be breaking some sort of rule or they'll look like they're trying to make the plot revolve around their character, when really they just are trying to get the plot started.

We could improvise the plot, and then, like Silverwind said, plot a bit more when things start to slow down, or we could have this plot we were just plotting as a backup plan to use if the improvised plot doesn't work out at all.
Reply Alder
12:48 PM on September 4, 2016 
I do agree with River that site members are too scared to make big moves. Whenever a plot move is taken, I'm pretty positive at least one member left out of the plot planning is bound to question it. For all of our security, I would suggest having Plot Managers. Maybe then we can speak to these people who give the yes or no on a plot movement of a character. Examples include killing off characters ( members permissions included) and the rise and fall of leaderships. The only reason im not saying completely Ember is because Ember is just one person, and may not be on all the time to answer the questions
Reply Ember
2:51 PM on September 4, 2016 
I think we need a balance between improvisation and a structured plot. Entirely improvised plots have been disappointing in the past and especially with school starting for the majority our of members, depending on people being able to sit down and start plot points without any planning seems like a lot to hope for.

From past plots, it seems like if we don't try and actively move a clan in whatever direction we've decided in, nothing much happens.

I agree though that it's best not to decide too much on a specific character's path, even if we have to a little bit for leaders (and their owners agree to that before taking the position).

Having a few characters who are chosen for specific plot roles seem to help, maybe we could just pick those few, and have them in charge of whatever direction their characters are going?
Reply L
3:02 PM on September 4, 2016 
A few characters that are in charge of pushing the plot in a certain direction?
Reply Ember
3:24 PM on September 4, 2016 
Yeah, so in NightCLan's case, we can choose have Hattori, Kingfish, and another cat to all be vying for power, then leave how that goes up to their owners?
Reply Henry MacArthur
3:39 PM on September 4, 2016 
Based on the kidnappings it is extremely unrealistic Hattori would pick someone like Kingfish. That'd only seem even more forced.
Reply Ember
3:48 PM on September 4, 2016 
Hattori would have a deputy separate from the other cats who are also trying to take leadership from the clan. The other two, Kingfish and whoever, could choose their own seconds in command and whatnot.
Reply L
4:06 PM on September 4, 2016 
I think that's a good idea. Would we have something like this for all the clans, or just NightClan who will be experiencing the most chaotic power struggle?
Reply Alder
4:14 PM on September 4, 2016 
I'm sorta confused. So is there going to be a double leadership in Nightclan? I would probably suggest my own Devilspawn, but humbly, as I'm just coming out from having a long lasting leader. Threelegs and Pantherfang may be ideal, along with Kingfish who will be that other leadership.
Reply L
4:15 PM on September 4, 2016 
Hattori will be the official leader, but the other two will be attempting to pull power their way, from what I understand, and the clan will be divided between the three.
Reply Ember
4:22 PM on September 4, 2016 
Just NightClan, unless this works out well and we decide to have something similar happen in the other clans in some future plot.

Yep, that's what I was thinking of, Lightning.
Reply Kingfish
5:12 PM on September 4, 2016 
So, wait, just to make sure I'm reading this right, we're saying that NightClan will be divided after Poppystar's death? Saying that Hattori is picking a right-hand man, Kingfish is doing the same, and someone else still is following that plan, too?
Reply L
5:16 PM on September 4, 2016 
Sounds like an accurate summary of what was being discussed, yeah.

So, should we be trying to develop general, isolated plot outlines for MoonClan and SunClan as well? Before we get too far into the beginning of school and planning something large scale becomes impossible to plan out?
Reply Henry MacArthur
5:54 PM on September 4, 2016 
Should Hattori go to the moonstone and receive his lives now? Or later on in the day?"
Reply Kingfish
6:01 PM on September 4, 2016 
I think it depends: if he feels that sad over Poppystar, he should wait until after he has paid respects and/or she's been laid to rest, or if he's that anxious to start changing the clan, I'd say he should go now.
Reply L
6:05 PM on September 4, 2016 
If he goes right away and doesn't appoint a deputy befor leaving the clan has time to fall into chaos and for various members to establish their alliances without interference from Hattori.
Reply Ember
6:09 PM on September 4, 2016 
Having him heading out sooner rather than later would probably be a good idea-- partially because I'm still stewing over who the next deputy will be.

Angel, I think a good place to start planning with SunClan and MoonClan would be with how we're going to have their spies discovered and what they're going to do about their captured clan members.
Reply Liger
7:11 PM on September 4, 2016 
Maybe the MoonClan-NightClan spies can be overheard talking about reporting back to MoonClan, or when they return from reporting they could have their Clan's scent on them?

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