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We can continue the Plot Planning discussion here.
If you haven’t already, be certain to read over the last few pages of the old plot planning thread. As a very brief summary, some plots points being discussed are a potential fire in DawnClan and/or NightClanners contaminating the river, two-legs poisoning rats and causing sickness in NightClan, and how we should use the coming gathering (May 13-15th) to move the clan more towards isolation.
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They wouldn't use it to start the fire, that was just a past idea that we had that I don't think we're using anymore, so they wouldn't have to know it was flammable. As for knowing how to use it, it probably wouldn't be too hard, we could just have a cat have had some sort of experience where they saw a cat die from eating prey that had had fuel spilled on it, and tell the clan about it.
Alright. But where would they get enough fuel to polute a river? The current would wash the stuff away very easily unless dead fish held onto it, but they would need to sink, and dead fish float.
The main argument is the realism here. Why can't we break the rules of reality? Cats are given nine lives by their dead ancestors, they mate for life, and in the history the Moonstone was eaten by a shark, which Dawnclan killed and feasted on. We are boundless with this roleplay. Well, not completely, we wouldn't have cats made of air or something like that. But my main point is, are we needing the logic for this plot? Truthfully, I like logic myself, but most seem pretty happy for this plot, and the only thing in the way is logic.
Would the cats even care how this happened, or how the bacteria spread? Wouldn't they be more concerned with the fact of their clan in danger?
Would the cats even care how this happened, or how the bacteria spread? Wouldn't they be more concerned with the fact of their clan in danger?
Ember-
It's hard to tell where to draw the line with realism, because while there are unrealistic aspects to this roleplay, we need to have some boundaries. I prefer to look to the first six books as a guide. So, maybe we can have the cats build to the fire with natural fuel, like dried grass and sticks? The fire in DC territory can be their goal, if an originally unplanned one, and the pollution resulting from the ash just be an unintended consequence. It's realistic enough, as the cats in the books were shown to have a very limited knowledge of two legs (so they wouldn't be able to effectively use, say, gasoline) but a decently broad knowledge of the natural world. They're bound to know how easily sticks and grass burns.
It's hard to tell where to draw the line with realism, because while there are unrealistic aspects to this roleplay, we need to have some boundaries. I prefer to look to the first six books as a guide. So, maybe we can have the cats build to the fire with natural fuel, like dried grass and sticks? The fire in DC territory can be their goal, if an originally unplanned one, and the pollution resulting from the ash just be an unintended consequence. It's realistic enough, as the cats in the books were shown to have a very limited knowledge of two legs (so they wouldn't be able to effectively use, say, gasoline) but a decently broad knowledge of the natural world. They're bound to know how easily sticks and grass burns.
I think this was already suggested, but what if there was a storm? At the very end of the storm, there could be a lightning bolt striking a tree and setting it on fire?
That would work, but it defeats the purpose of NightClan itself deliberately starting the fire with the intention to harm DawnClan.
I agree with Ember though. Ash may or may not effect the river, as we have the power to control how much. Maybe even a kittypet can come it and demand to be let in and says that in exchange they will show how to make fire? It will be a complete dud, as cats will then try and expieriment with glass and how the light goes through it and such?
I don't think we should complicate the fire idea too much, just keeping it as NightClan opportunistically building upon an accidental two-leg fire or claiming credit for a fire that they had nothing to do with should be enough. The ash itself wouldn't be the main polluter, as the fire would stay relatively small and not burn down whole trees, mainly lower-growing plants and leaf litter, we can just use it to cause an algal bloom, then the resulting fallout from that. We can exaggerate the following fish kill, which NightClan could use to their advantage, even if its a consequence they didn't originally expect.
I don't think we should be focusing on how the fire get starts, the problem I'm seeing us coming across is that DC and NC don't share a border near a firepath, where two-legs would be.
I don't think we should be focusing on how the fire get starts, the problem I'm seeing us coming across is that DC and NC don't share a border near a firepath, where two-legs would be.
That's why I have brought up Sunclan before? I know that we shouldn't focus on having a fire in Sunclan because of the population problems, but it would most likely be the easiest for the plot.
@Spicy
Having the fire start in Sunclan would actually be more reasonable. There are few trees, meaning the fire could spread quicker, and the way I see it, Sunclan's grass would most likely be a lot dryer than Dawnclan's, meaning the fire could spread and ignite more easily.
Having the fire start in Sunclan would actually be more reasonable. There are few trees, meaning the fire could spread quicker, and the way I see it, Sunclan's grass would most likely be a lot dryer than Dawnclan's, meaning the fire could spread and ignite more easily.
There were a number of reasons stated in the previous thread why SunClan should not be the victim of the fire plot. Though, if you mean that it starts at the very edge of the SunClan territory and spreads over to DawnClan, say by a strong wind, that could work.
I feel as though we keep becoming sidetracked from the point of the plot.
I believe Toxic originally suggested:
-Blackpine (NightClanner) is killed by Seraphgaze (DawnClanner)
-Lionstar seeks to avenge his friend's death
-NightClan can not be seen to be attacking outright
-NightClan somehow disturbs DawnClan without evidence directly pointing to them
-Mistrust is created, and possibly, a cause for further confrontations as well
It seems like a very good plot. The only part of it which needs to be fleshed out is the fourth point.
I believe Toxic originally suggested:
-Blackpine (NightClanner) is killed by Seraphgaze (DawnClanner)
-Lionstar seeks to avenge his friend's death
-NightClan can not be seen to be attacking outright
-NightClan somehow disturbs DawnClan without evidence directly pointing to them
-Mistrust is created, and possibly, a cause for further confrontations as well
It seems like a very good plot. The only part of it which needs to be fleshed out is the fourth point.
We can just have some NightClanners along DawnClan's southern border, meaning to cause trouble, and stumble upon the beginning of the fire. It is rather far, but if they're there for the purpose of being up to no good, it isn't impossible.
A part of me thinks though that the plot of killing and wanting revenge is very overused.
Its about a new clan called TreeClan. TreeClan's territory is in the center of what seems to be a jungle. The leader is Dappledstar, a silvery gray dappled she cat, the deputy is Spottedclaw, a pale brown tabby tom with sky blue eyes, and the med cat is Snarlingfortress, a stocky dark gray tom with white paws.
As you can tell, the cats of TreeClan have long well mmuscled legs with soft thick fur, wide eyes, big paws to hold on to branches and ears that are either sharp pionted or floppy.
TreeClan hunts by using the trees. They fight, hunt, patrol in them too. There whole life revolves around the trees
As you can tell, the cats of TreeClan have long well mmuscled legs with soft thick fur, wide eyes, big paws to hold on to branches and ears that are either sharp pionted or floppy.
TreeClan hunts by using the trees. They fight, hunt, patrol in them too. There whole life revolves around the trees
@shybreeze I don't think we need a new clan rn.. Also with the environmental characteristics of the area, it wouldn't be reasonable for there to be a jungle or jungle-like area.
I don't think there are any routes to go other than revenge and murders. At least this plot wouldn't be based around a misunderstanding, and I don't think we've ever had such subtle revenge tactics before. Usually the clans just end up all out warring against each other. With this whole isolation plot, things could be much less battle-based and more along the lines of causing trouble, kidnapping, assassinations, and spreading rumors about each other.
I think the main plot should still focus on the younger cats from the clans meeting in secret (the strength of which has been dwindling). The idea of NightClan starting a fire was supposed to be more a side plot to push the clans towards isolation.
Toxic is right, we shouldn't be focusing on the fire so much. Smaller events will make this plot, so we should keep having cats meet up in secret and causing smaller conflicts.
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