Warrior Cats of the Forest
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Now that the flooding arc has drawn to a close, it’s time to start considering where we want to carry the war from here. MoonClan and NightClan are loosely allied, as are SunClan and DawnClan, but where do we want the source of their next battle to come from?
We can continue to feed off of the assassin plot, possibly, if cats continue to go missing from border patrols and such, or we can start something new, possibly escalated border skirmishes, drama at a gathering, etc.
In the last plot planning page, we considered having apprentices continue meeting at the gathering clearing and eventually being found out by their leaders.
What do y’all think should happen?
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They could be holding the sticks straight (like a dog) and risk burns to their heads (which, depending on the cat, wouldn't deter them all that much), and if the bonfire is already in DawnClan's territory then it would be beneficial if the grass they were dragging it over caught fire.
Oh, yep, and Toxic's point about it being useful for it to drag on the ground. Didn't think of that. Then they could spread the fire even more.
true, true, but there should be a final decision about where the fire will start before we think about that? idk lol
I think we've established that having the bonfire anywhere other than in DawnClan's territory (or maybe at Hawk's Tree?) wouldn't be a viable option x)
How about instead of using (NightClan) cats as the instigators, we have humans start the fire? It's easier to believe, and is a more likely scenario to happen in any case. We can use kids, campers, hitchhikers, hunters, etc. to start an accidental fire. Possibly even an arsonist if it has to be purposeful.
I agree with Ember's idea about poisoning the water supply. There could be an accidental oil leak, an issue with waste disposal, or maybe even acid rain. pH levels drop and the marine life starts to suffer. Kind of makes it a pollution-driven arc, but they're close to a city, so it could be plausible.
I agree with Ember's idea about poisoning the water supply. There could be an accidental oil leak, an issue with waste disposal, or maybe even acid rain. pH levels drop and the marine life starts to suffer. Kind of makes it a pollution-driven arc, but they're close to a city, so it could be plausible.
Tainted water stays tainted for a long time though, so the two legs would have to come and clean it up. Also even if a cat was dead beat insane in the head, getting burnt is still painful and I just don't find it very believable that they would just toughen through it all. I do agree with Ripple on that it'd be better if it was started by two-legs and not cats, the idea is just absurd.
Having the fire started purely by two-legs would negate the point of it being a non-war feud between NightClan and DawnClan. The fire would be retaliation for the murders of a few NightClan cats but having humans do it would just make it a random event.
Having cats starting a fire isn't really all that more absurd than having cats form their own clans, with an organized structure, religion, and naming system. Or the whole nine lives that the leaders get. We should stay realistic yes, but these cats are sentient creatures capable of critical thinking and planning, so the idea that they could take the initiative to spark a fire isn't insane.
Having cats starting a fire isn't really all that more absurd than having cats form their own clans, with an organized structure, religion, and naming system. Or the whole nine lives that the leaders get. We should stay realistic yes, but these cats are sentient creatures capable of critical thinking and planning, so the idea that they could take the initiative to spark a fire isn't insane.
A spike in the biological oxygen demand caused by a short-lived algal bloom wouldn't be such a large issue two-legs would get involved and would clear up on its own pretty naturally-- however there wouldn't be a massive dip in the clan's food supply, we'd have to scorch a pretty large section of the forest for that to happen. Of course, we can exaggerate the effects of the drop in dissolved oxygen, I don't think that would be stepping too far into the range of unrealistic. Acid rain isn't likely to spike either and while its probably affecting the first already, given our Midwest location, it wouldn't just all of a sudden start causing a big issue of it wasn't before. // We could have the two legs start an accidental fire along the thunder path (cigarette butt out the window? They warn against doing that here a lot, but I live in a pretty dry area). NightClan cats could see it starting and feed the fire, unstead of putting it out. By the time DawnClanners smell the smoke and start to investigate, the fire is small enough they can approach the site to smell NightClanner, but too big for them to put out?
I think that's the most reasonable option, Ember. Although, maybe they shouldn't get any hints that it was NightClan? NightClan could have their secretive smugness for a bit, and the information that the fire was antagonized by NightClan could get to them later through the apprentice meetings or a later Gathering.
There is one big problem, though. We'd have to shift around borders some since DC and NC don't share a border near a thunder path.
Instead of it being flicked out of a car, a human walking through the forest could have just left it on the ground. There are plenty of careless smokers out there.
How about we make it an (environmental) issue of contamination, instead of starting a fire, and veer away from NightClan being the big villains to focus more on DawnClan? They're certainly the victims in this scenario, but the other clans shouldn't be involved by way of foul play (at least not this early in the plot). We've had conflicts before with external elements being the sole cause, so it could work for DawnClan as well; instead of brute-forcing another war.
As far as I understand, the point of the disaster is that NightClan needs to retaliate for the murder of Blackpine. By that logic they must be the instigators, although, perhaps they could go with the contamination route. Would the cats have knowledge enough about oil and its effects on water that they would purposefully push conveniently placed barrels? If not, they could always push trash cans into the NightClan portion of the river, with the water carrying this debris downstream to DawnClan's portion.
xD Sorry, missed that part of the conversation. I thought NightClan was just starting fires to start a fire.
I assumed you had missed it, which is totally understandable; it seems as though there were several comments a minute for a while there.
I like Alienfish's idea of contaminating the river by pushing trash into the river to have it carried downstream and into DawnClan's territory. The NightClanners would certainly know how to collect the trash and where to find the foulest of it, and NightClanners are never hesitant to inflict hardships on other clans.
xD Maybe if it was another leader, Ripple. The reason they're going with a fire instead of war is because Lionstar isn't aggressive (or rash) enough to start an all out war against DawnClan that will likely result in a lot of deaths. He wants a sneakier way of hurting them, that won't hurt NightClan in return.
xD Maybe if it was another leader, Ripple. The reason they're going with a fire instead of war is because Lionstar isn't aggressive (or rash) enough to start an all out war against DawnClan that will likely result in a lot of deaths. He wants a sneakier way of hurting them, that won't hurt NightClan in return.
I believe that apprentices should continue to meet. I agree with Alienfish's idea of making a pseudo-clan.
I do have a character that I could offer as an assassin. The battlebetween clans could come from accusatiosn for deaths from the assassins.
I do have a character that I could offer as an assassin. The battlebetween clans could come from accusatiosn for deaths from the assassins.
Mallow, we've decided to abandon the assassin idea altogether, as well as the idea of any real organization forming among the apprentices. We're currently focused on creating an atmosphere of isolation within the clans. Thanks for the support, though!
Also, in unrelated matters, I will be away for this month's gathering. This could be translated into some sort of in-character reasoning, whether that be the simple "Illness" line, or if it is something more beneficial to the plot, such as injury at the hands of another clan, paranoia about the possibility of such injury during the gathering (This might not fit his personality well, unless the threat was very evident), or even a decision that the gathering simply won't see anything accomplished? Any way that this goes, isolation could be encouraged, at least for SunClan, by his inability or unwillingness to attend.
Also, should we use this gathering to put in place definitive regulations promoting isolationism, such as the in-character ban on changing clans, or a creation of neutral territory to buffer the clans' distance from each other?
Also, in unrelated matters, I will be away for this month's gathering. This could be translated into some sort of in-character reasoning, whether that be the simple "Illness" line, or if it is something more beneficial to the plot, such as injury at the hands of another clan, paranoia about the possibility of such injury during the gathering (This might not fit his personality well, unless the threat was very evident), or even a decision that the gathering simply won't see anything accomplished? Any way that this goes, isolation could be encouraged, at least for SunClan, by his inability or unwillingness to attend.
Also, should we use this gathering to put in place definitive regulations promoting isolationism, such as the in-character ban on changing clans, or a creation of neutral territory to buffer the clans' distance from each other?
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