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Flood Arc Plot Planning
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Hey guys! While we have the wider events of our next arc planned out, we need to settle the finer details of it.
What we do have planned entails the clans experiencing a large, sudden storm. NightClan will be forced out of their camp by a flash flood, while a dam breaks upstream forcing MoonClan and DawnClan to abandon their own camps. The only clan left in safety will be SunClan, who will accept the other clans in for as long as it takes for the flooding to subside. The arc will break down some tensions left over from the Medicine Cat arc and could be used to create new bonds for our next arc.
The flood will take place in mid- to late- December, what specific dates do you guys believe will be best? As mentioned in the December Gathering and Medicine Cat Meeting, it’s possible we could cancel the medicine meeting (as there are no site-wide plot points planned for then) to push the flood earlier.
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How about we have some drama where some Dawnclan cats stay behind after the flood, claiming they can still swim and live there, not wanting to hurt their pride? But most of them should come to Sunclan, seeing their personalities. Then we could have some drama where some clan's territory isn't flooded anymore but they still stay in Sunclan, taking advantage of Epochstar's kindness. And then maybe a smattering of Sunclanners could leave, fed up with the other clans being there and possibly vice versa. I'd like to leave *some* of the rest up to the rest of the roleplayers, because even if we plan out everything something won't be exactly the same. I hope that made sense XP
I like Evening's idea, aswell as Angel's and Larchsong's. Perhaps as "payment" of Epochstar's hospitality, they could demand some or most of the kits born during the clans' stay at SunClan. The argument could be made that the kits would be more comfortable with SunClan's territory having been born there. Technically then, they are SunClan kits. This would also further stimulate the whole, Clan Identity Crisis.
I can't really speak for Riversoul but that doesn't really seem like Epochstar (Not that I don't love the idea and under a colder leader in different times I think it would be fantastic). He's been pretty compassionate so far and doing anything like prying kits away from their parents probably wouldn't sit well with him or the clan, given how recently their kits and apprentices were taken to DawnClan.
The other leaders demanding land from SunClan doesn?t make sense to be either, there?s no sense in attacking the clan hosting them. Some generally pettiness is possible, but that seems a bit far, especially if they actually go through with it (as opposed to threatening to take territory when feathers get ruffled later down the line). Having the excuse of for when later floods come is possible, but it still feels like somewhat of a stretch to me 
Having parts of SunClan?s territory claimed by the other clans is possible. We could start with all of them hunting together then having some conflict spark the separation.
Snowy, I don?t think the flood will last long enough for cats to starve. They?ll go hungry and that might flare up tensions, but it wouldn?t be a dangerous amount or far from what could be expected during the worst of leaf-bare.
I like your idea, Ebony, with confused clan identities and cross-clan relationships sparking issues further problems down the line. We could push the arc further with the clans being hit by a drought or another natural disaster, alongside whatever wars follow.
Having cats get fed up and attempting to return to their actual territories and drowning could be interesting, as would certain cats attempting to stay behind.
The Peacekeepers idea would help give more members a chance to directly participate, but I?m concerned that the clans would shy away from it based on, as Evening pointed out, MoonClan?s enforcers. We could go through with it, but the leaders, I suspect, would have to be very careful in what the peacekeepers are allowed to do.
Cats attempting to say in SunClan past when the flooding subsides could loop back to the confused clan identities that will arise from all of the clans living together.
I can?t imagine any of the clans, even in a tense situation, attempting to take more kits so soon after our last arc. SunClan is characterized by caution, even if they attempted to grab some sort of tribute from the other clans, they?d likely go for something less emotionally charged.
Having parts of SunClan?s territory claimed by the other clans is possible. We could start with all of them hunting together then having some conflict spark the separation.
Snowy, I don?t think the flood will last long enough for cats to starve. They?ll go hungry and that might flare up tensions, but it wouldn?t be a dangerous amount or far from what could be expected during the worst of leaf-bare.
I like your idea, Ebony, with confused clan identities and cross-clan relationships sparking issues further problems down the line. We could push the arc further with the clans being hit by a drought or another natural disaster, alongside whatever wars follow.
Having cats get fed up and attempting to return to their actual territories and drowning could be interesting, as would certain cats attempting to stay behind.
The Peacekeepers idea would help give more members a chance to directly participate, but I?m concerned that the clans would shy away from it based on, as Evening pointed out, MoonClan?s enforcers. We could go through with it, but the leaders, I suspect, would have to be very careful in what the peacekeepers are allowed to do.
Cats attempting to say in SunClan past when the flooding subsides could loop back to the confused clan identities that will arise from all of the clans living together.
I can?t imagine any of the clans, even in a tense situation, attempting to take more kits so soon after our last arc. SunClan is characterized by caution, even if they attempted to grab some sort of tribute from the other clans, they?d likely go for something less emotionally charged.
maybe this will help make the clans more friendly towards each other and will lead to a more... united force of clans. maybe they could use this to work together and fight off a bigger enemy that threatens the clans (which is talk for another plot planning page) but i like the idea of cats being confused about the deep separations between clans and there being kits born from two clans. thatll definitely cause some drama
We could possibly do it before Christmas and NewYears so more people could be on, possibly the 19th or 20th
Perhaps Sunclan could demand land after the flooding has subsiding, as reward or in return for them having let the other clans stay in their land?
Whoo. that was alot, I like most of these Ideas ^_^
I think we should just call this arc 'Couple's Therapy.' xD All the leaders and clans will certainly be getting a lot closer together and learning from each other. This is a fantastic opportunity. All of the past wars(at least the ones I've been on the site for) have been due to different life styles and misunderstandings. This would be the perfect place for MoonClanners and NightClanners to settle any ruffled feathers. Like hey, these city cats aren't all soul-less Dark Forest worshippers that Weepingstar had them pegged for. Or whoa, these forest cats aren't all preaching heretics like Frozenstar had us convinced they were. Definite clan identity crisis will ensue. DawnClanners could teach SunClanners to swim, NightClanners could teach MoonClanner free thought, MoonClanners could teach DawnClanners inspiration, SunClanners could teach NightClanners humility or restraint. This arc could shape the clans for a while.
The whole Peacekeepers idea is good, but I'm sure all the cats, as many have stated, will be very careful and weary about the whole ordeal. And they certainly won't be given too much power, even if they become a thing.
Perhaps something to propose would be council of sorts. Now, I know if i had four very diverse leaders, and not to mention, diverse people, living in such tight quarters, it would be a little difficult to see who holds authority over who. Epochstar would obviously be at some sort of advantage, since it is his land after all. Locuststar and Coldstar would probably try to control things. Geckostar seems pretty obedient and would respect boundaries, but even then, that many powerful people trying all to control clanmates, they're bound to butt heads. So what if they set up a council of cats to settle interclan disputes or arguments that infringe transclans so that a leader can't deal with what their subject has done. This council would be made up of a few cats from each clan, perhaps one or two more from SunClan since they are the host, and these cats would become 'Clanless' as Angel stated. Perhaps those could be the Peacekeepers? Or cats of another name? Whichever, I actually think this would also help to get more individuals personally involved in the roleplay, besides leaders, deputies, and medicine cats, and it is a fairly harmless job. Each decision this council makes would be ran through the leaders and deputies to be approved and then carried out.
The whole Peacekeepers idea is good, but I'm sure all the cats, as many have stated, will be very careful and weary about the whole ordeal. And they certainly won't be given too much power, even if they become a thing.
Perhaps something to propose would be council of sorts. Now, I know if i had four very diverse leaders, and not to mention, diverse people, living in such tight quarters, it would be a little difficult to see who holds authority over who. Epochstar would obviously be at some sort of advantage, since it is his land after all. Locuststar and Coldstar would probably try to control things. Geckostar seems pretty obedient and would respect boundaries, but even then, that many powerful people trying all to control clanmates, they're bound to butt heads. So what if they set up a council of cats to settle interclan disputes or arguments that infringe transclans so that a leader can't deal with what their subject has done. This council would be made up of a few cats from each clan, perhaps one or two more from SunClan since they are the host, and these cats would become 'Clanless' as Angel stated. Perhaps those could be the Peacekeepers? Or cats of another name? Whichever, I actually think this would also help to get more individuals personally involved in the roleplay, besides leaders, deputies, and medicine cats, and it is a fairly harmless job. Each decision this council makes would be ran through the leaders and deputies to be approved and then carried out.
I like the idea of the Council, but since we have a couple pretty bold and controlling leaders in this plot (namely Coldstar and Locuststar) it might be difficult to get them to give up any sort of power, since this Council could be seen as almost being above the leaders (as we may run into the issue of who will settle disputes between opposing leaders while all of the clans are in the same area). They'd likely be wary about giving the Council any real power, for the same reason they'd be wary of giving the Peacekeepers power. I'm sure a lot of the cats are still afraid of something like another medicine cat/ enforcer uprising.
As well as causing conflict as some cats start to lose the sense for clan identity, I think some cats would cling even tighter to it (especially after the flood ends and they go back), so that?ll cause even more trouble down the line as the ones with a lot of clan pride try to assert it on those who don?t.
I can?t see the leaders as wanting to set up a council of other cats, it?s more likely that they?d agree to, at least in the beginning, settle disputes and make rules as a group. Of course that would break down after a while, and possibly the cats could decide to make some sort of other group to keep check on the leaders?? Possibly all of the elders would attempt to step in and handle disputes without the leaders setting up the counsel when the leaders? interference worsens the situation. I can?t imagine that would end well either, at least not over a long period of time, for the reasons Angel pointed out. It could lead to some more conflict, though.
So, starting all of this on the 19th? I would personally prefer if we avoided this Friday, so I can reserve that evening for cleaning up the pages and finishing the guides I have in progress. Or, the storm could start on that Friday and the actual flooding could begin on Saturday?
I can?t see the leaders as wanting to set up a council of other cats, it?s more likely that they?d agree to, at least in the beginning, settle disputes and make rules as a group. Of course that would break down after a while, and possibly the cats could decide to make some sort of other group to keep check on the leaders?? Possibly all of the elders would attempt to step in and handle disputes without the leaders setting up the counsel when the leaders? interference worsens the situation. I can?t imagine that would end well either, at least not over a long period of time, for the reasons Angel pointed out. It could lead to some more conflict, though.
So, starting all of this on the 19th? I would personally prefer if we avoided this Friday, so I can reserve that evening for cleaning up the pages and finishing the guides I have in progress. Or, the storm could start on that Friday and the actual flooding could begin on Saturday?
Starting it on Saturday sounds good to me. It gives people time to rest after any finals/work/or school too.
Angel and I were tossing back and forth a few minor ideas for this coming plot. We decided that it would be best if SunClan moved to the abandoned barn during the flood plot. It would provide them with some shelter, as well as giving us more natural ways to divide threads. The SunClan Camp thread would be overwhelmed with posts if we all were posting on just that, and dividing the camp thread up would make events difficult to link together in various parts of the camp (ie. Anyone in the ?SunClan Camp Outskirts? would be able to see events in ?SunClan Clearing Main?, but it?s unlikely the roleplayers would be watching both at once). By providing a few different clearly defined rooms, we wouldn?t be posting all over each other to the point that following coherent reply chains would be nearly impossible, and cats in different areas would have a more logical reason why they didn?t see events in other rooms taking place. I can have a reference picture of the barn up by Saturday afternoon at the latest.
I really like Twin Devil's "Couple Therapy Idea", and Ember and Angel's barn plan.
im surprised the sunclanners would want to move into the barn. it seems more likely the nightclanners would want to, since they are so accustomed to living indoors
I agree with Owl-Sunclanners are supposed to like the open space more and freedom and such, while Nightclan basically has an abandoned building for the camp, so it would make sense if the Nightclanners moved/wanted to move into the barn instead of Sunclanners
Oh StarClan, will just SunClan be living in that barn, or all of them? Because if all four clans have to live in that barn, that's going to be our first conflict right there. "Who sleeps where?" "No, this is /our/ killpile!" "I called this spot!"
I do think that even though NightClan is used to the indoors, SunClan would definitely take the barn since it is an advantage, and their neighbouring clans will be at their mercy anyway. It would make sense.
Yeah, it would be hard to have another group around, especially so soon after the Enforcers.
Dividing up the threads will be necessary, and that is a simple way to do it.
What type of minor plot points were being discussed? I'm sure we'd all like to spit ball ideas.
I do think that even though NightClan is used to the indoors, SunClan would definitely take the barn since it is an advantage, and their neighbouring clans will be at their mercy anyway. It would make sense.
Yeah, it would be hard to have another group around, especially so soon after the Enforcers.
Dividing up the threads will be necessary, and that is a simple way to do it.
What type of minor plot points were being discussed? I'm sure we'd all like to spit ball ideas.
With how bad the storm?s going to get, they?ll likely want to get under some sort of shelter before the other clans start fleeing to their territory. They?ve gone there before and even while they like the open sky, I imagine that only goes so far. When that open sky is raining water down so hard that your kits are starting to look like they might be swept away in the runoff, it?s time to take cover even as a SunClanner.
I just posted the map, there?s plenty of room for fighting over spaces. There?s three main rooms of varying sizes, with a hallway connecting them all. They could potentially try to separate into the four areas, but that?s bound to start fighting over who gets where.
Minor plots would fall to individual roleplayers and characters, things like cross-clan relationships and characters bickering. I imagine most of it will happen in the heat of the moment, so planning it out wouldn?t progress much.
I just posted the map, there?s plenty of room for fighting over spaces. There?s three main rooms of varying sizes, with a hallway connecting them all. They could potentially try to separate into the four areas, but that?s bound to start fighting over who gets where.
Minor plots would fall to individual roleplayers and characters, things like cross-clan relationships and characters bickering. I imagine most of it will happen in the heat of the moment, so planning it out wouldn?t progress much.
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