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Posted by Ember on October 11, 2015 at 3:50 PM

The DawnClan overthrow has already begun, MoonClan’s revolt is scheduled to begin either next weekend (October 16-18) or the following one (October 23-25). This gap will allow DawnClan to gather support and NightClan and SunClan and prevent too much from happening all at once.

In DawnClan, Clawtail has started a clan meeting to call for Dawnswallow’s removal from power because of the foxglove murders. When Dawnwallow returns to the camp, the clan will be rioting for her execution and she will be killed by her clan mates. After this, Clawtail will set up an election for the clan to vote on their next leader and deputy (Locuststrike and Sacredtears) and announce she will step down from her position when she has trained an apprentice. Lotus-star will be stepping down from her position, as she’s never been a full supporter of the medicine cat she will not be executed or run out of the clan. The kits taken from SunClan would also be returned at this point.

All of that is pretty set in stone now, as the revolt has already begun, but past that point there is still room for discussion about what can happen.

The new DawnClan leadership can send patrols to NightClan and SunClan to discuss a joint overthrow of Weepingstar. Having all the clans working together to destroy Weepingstar’s leadership will build trust that will help our next arc, as well as provide a way to have NightClan and SunClan involved in this plot.

We don’t have very many concrete details set out for how MoonClan’s overthrow will go down. We do know that that Eclipseheart and the medicine cats are loyal to Weepingstar and the leaders of the rebellion will be Geckospots and Amberstrike, who have already supported some of their supporters. This overthrow is likely to be bloodier and longer than DawnClan’s and will result in a costly internal war between the rebels and the zealots, who will be put down by combined MoonClan rebel, DawnClan, SunClan, and NightClan forces in a large battle. It’s possible that we could have a group of warriors from each clan staying in MoonClan to maintain peace while MoonClan transitions into a more stable leadership and the former zealots are integrated back into clan life.

Here are some possible options for what will be done with zealots, suggested by Angel. For all of the options, the punishments for each character or each broad category of crimes will be decided upon out of character before the actual trial, to speed things along and ensure we won’t have to be waiting for members to be online at the right time. There has been some discussion about these options in the last plot planning entry on pages 9 and 10, I suggest you check that out.

1. During a gathering, or possibly a special meeting of just the leaders and deputies, the fate of each cat will be individually chosen.

2. The leaders and deputies during the gathering or a special meeting devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account

3. The medicine cats could decide the fate of each cat during a medicine cat meeting. May help restore the medicine cats’ image as impartial peacekeepers.

4. The medicine cats devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account.

5. The medicine cats or leaders decide on a blanket pardon for all crimes on the possible basis that enough blood has been spilled and there is no reason to cause more strife.

6. The medicine cats or leaders could decide to strip all zealots of certain rights, such as making it impossible for them to hold a position of authority within the clan or being lowered to the status of an apprentice.

What do y’all think would be the best option for handling the zealots? How much and how should SunClan and NightClan get involved in the conflict? Should they send warriors to stay in MoonClan for an extended period of time to help the transition? What about in DawnClan? Should the kits taken from SunClan and NightClan be integrated into this at all? Would MoonClan and DawnClan as a whole face any punishment for their actions, alongside individual warriors? I could see NightClan demanding a share of their territory.

 

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145 Comments

Reply L
3:54 PM on October 29, 2015 
@Amberstrike, I think you mean Hailfall x) And I don't see a reason why he couldn't come back. There wouldn't be anyone trying to kill him any more.
Reply Amberstrike1019
3:58 PM on October 29, 2015 
I must be the only person on here that messes up her own character's name. XD
And awesome! I'll Have him return to the camp sometime tonight.
Reply L
4:07 PM on October 29, 2015 
Please don't use profanity. Slangs of swear words also fall into that category. Staying away from anything used similarly to a curse is best :)
Reply Ember
10:13 PM on October 30, 2015 
Hailfall will be MoonClan's next deputy, sorry for the last minute change y'all :)
Reply Riversoul
12:35 PM on October 31, 2015 
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Reply Fangchica
2:21 PM on October 31, 2015 
Can we have a Sunclan based plot next? I feel bad for Sunclan because it is usually the one with least activity, it seems
Reply Riversoul
3:14 PM on October 31, 2015 
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Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
3:59 PM on October 31, 2015 
I kinda like the SunClan idea, but WindClan was forced out temporarily as well. It might not be as fun, seeing that they are basically the same. But, I don't make major decisions, and it WOULD be fun.
Reply Amberstrike1019
4:54 PM on October 31, 2015 
Hey, I hate to interrupt, but when will we be getting the exchange plot moving?
Reply Ember
5:36 PM on October 31, 2015 
Rather than having the clans go toward the Moonstone because of a flood (as discussed in the last plot planning entry), we could have them go to SunClan's territory?
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
6:04 PM on October 31, 2015 
I like that idea, Ember. It'd make sense because water can't climb high ground, and SunClan live in the uplands. Would it effect all the Clans, or just one? I don't see how a flood could reach NightClan because they live in a city. ( I'm finally thinking logic )
Reply L
6:07 PM on October 31, 2015 
Alright, so there have been some modifications to the exchange plot due to a lack of volunteers and specific motivation for it.

To begin, there will have to be opposition to Geckostar's leadership and Hailfall's appointment as deputy. The cats who oppose them will do it because they're wary of having another sole leader, because they don't think the traditional clan system works anymore, or for any other reason that could lead them to be against returning to the former system. Instead, they'll want to set up something along the lines of a democracy in the clans where no one cat has power over all the others (the group does not need to be huge, just large enough to cause trouble). These variation of ideals will be the cause of some more violent clashes in MoonClan. In order to stabilize the clan, MoonClan will need help from the other clans. Thus, the three other clans send in "guards" to help protect the current system and keep MoonClan from changing from the traditional structure again.

The reasoning behind the other clans sending in help would be to prevent the spread of this new structure to their own clans. It would also give SunClan a reason to get rid of their current voting system and give the majority of the power back to the leader.


The fighting between the two sides will take place next weekend, so that it can be brought up during the Gathering which will take place the following week.


Any opinions, ideas, or volunteers to join the new rebellion? (unlike the previous rebellion they will not win)
Reply Whiteflower
10:15 PM on October 31, 2015 
I don't have much to add to that. I like it.
Reply Amberstrike1019
10:19 PM on October 31, 2015 
Hey, this system that you said the rebels would be working towards sounds a lot like the idea I'd had for how Amberstrike's Colony worked before it got wiped out. Maybe it could be lead by another survivor of the Colony?
Reply L
10:42 PM on October 31, 2015 
I think it'd be best to keep everything within the clans instead of bringing in any outside influence. The idea of democracy is something that the clan cats have already brought up on their own, and would probably gather more support if some of the new "rebels" in MoonClan figured out a system by themselves rather than having a loner come in and suggest it. Besides, they're not going to last long once the cats from other clans are sent in so I doubt there's even going to be a true leader. Just a group of cats all mad about the same thing and wanting change.
Reply Fangchica
10:46 PM on October 31, 2015 
Please don't take this as offensive, but why does Moonclan get more plot arcs than Sunclan or Nightclan or Dawnclan?Yes, it was the original clan and there might be more cats, but still.....
Reply Amberstrike1019
10:48 PM on October 31, 2015 
And I guarantee it's the biggest Clan BECAUSE it's always the center of attention.
Reply L
10:51 PM on October 31, 2015 
@Fang the reason for this miniature plot arc is just to wrap up the medicine cat rise to power one. Since the clan is still so unstable, it's going to have some issues, and we just needed to rework why the other clans would be sent in to help stabilize it. This isn't really a plot, it's more just cleaning up.

The Medicine cat plot wouldn't have worked in NightClan or SunClan because of how they view StarClan. It was planned for the next one to revolve around SunClan though.

As for a general why, it's just the leaderships and personalities haven't worked out as well. It's easy to start conflicts and chaos in MoonClan and NightClan because of their general personalities, but because DawnClan is so friendly and SunClan is so cautious, they're not really the type to start wars just because they can, or attempt to take over the other clans.

But, that's what the plot planning page is for. The past few major plots have all been run through here, and been approved by the members. So to get a plot involving the other clans, we have to figure out plots we can use that center around them. If only a couple plots are suggested, and they all involve MoonClan or NightClan, we only have those to use.
Reply Riversoul
7:26 AM on November 1, 2015 
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Reply Ember
1:15 PM on November 1, 2015 
I agree with Angel, it would be better to keep this all within the current MoonClanners and only loosely organized. It won?t be a big plot in itself, just a skirmish taken care of over one day to give us an in-character reason for why it?s been taking us this long for the other clans to send in ?guards?.
We still need more volunteers from the other clans. With this change we won?t need characters sent from MoonClan to the others, just cats sent from NightClan, DawnClan, and SunClan into MoonClan.
Currently we have Liondance from NightClan, Dewpaw from DawnClan, and Yuccapaw, Icepaw, and Spiderpaw from SunClan. If we get two more volunteers from SunClan we could just have them send in cats and cite their interest in stability? NightClan could refuse on account of their on-going struggle with MoonClan, and Locuststar doesn?t seem like he?d agree to send in characters even if his clan wanted him to. That would give us a SunClan-oriented plot point.

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