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Posted by Ember on October 11, 2015 at 3:50 PM

The DawnClan overthrow has already begun, MoonClan’s revolt is scheduled to begin either next weekend (October 16-18) or the following one (October 23-25). This gap will allow DawnClan to gather support and NightClan and SunClan and prevent too much from happening all at once.

In DawnClan, Clawtail has started a clan meeting to call for Dawnswallow’s removal from power because of the foxglove murders. When Dawnwallow returns to the camp, the clan will be rioting for her execution and she will be killed by her clan mates. After this, Clawtail will set up an election for the clan to vote on their next leader and deputy (Locuststrike and Sacredtears) and announce she will step down from her position when she has trained an apprentice. Lotus-star will be stepping down from her position, as she’s never been a full supporter of the medicine cat she will not be executed or run out of the clan. The kits taken from SunClan would also be returned at this point.

All of that is pretty set in stone now, as the revolt has already begun, but past that point there is still room for discussion about what can happen.

The new DawnClan leadership can send patrols to NightClan and SunClan to discuss a joint overthrow of Weepingstar. Having all the clans working together to destroy Weepingstar’s leadership will build trust that will help our next arc, as well as provide a way to have NightClan and SunClan involved in this plot.

We don’t have very many concrete details set out for how MoonClan’s overthrow will go down. We do know that that Eclipseheart and the medicine cats are loyal to Weepingstar and the leaders of the rebellion will be Geckospots and Amberstrike, who have already supported some of their supporters. This overthrow is likely to be bloodier and longer than DawnClan’s and will result in a costly internal war between the rebels and the zealots, who will be put down by combined MoonClan rebel, DawnClan, SunClan, and NightClan forces in a large battle. It’s possible that we could have a group of warriors from each clan staying in MoonClan to maintain peace while MoonClan transitions into a more stable leadership and the former zealots are integrated back into clan life.

Here are some possible options for what will be done with zealots, suggested by Angel. For all of the options, the punishments for each character or each broad category of crimes will be decided upon out of character before the actual trial, to speed things along and ensure we won’t have to be waiting for members to be online at the right time. There has been some discussion about these options in the last plot planning entry on pages 9 and 10, I suggest you check that out.

1. During a gathering, or possibly a special meeting of just the leaders and deputies, the fate of each cat will be individually chosen.

2. The leaders and deputies during the gathering or a special meeting devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account

3. The medicine cats could decide the fate of each cat during a medicine cat meeting. May help restore the medicine cats’ image as impartial peacekeepers.

4. The medicine cats devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account.

5. The medicine cats or leaders decide on a blanket pardon for all crimes on the possible basis that enough blood has been spilled and there is no reason to cause more strife.

6. The medicine cats or leaders could decide to strip all zealots of certain rights, such as making it impossible for them to hold a position of authority within the clan or being lowered to the status of an apprentice.

What do y’all think would be the best option for handling the zealots? How much and how should SunClan and NightClan get involved in the conflict? Should they send warriors to stay in MoonClan for an extended period of time to help the transition? What about in DawnClan? Should the kits taken from SunClan and NightClan be integrated into this at all? Would MoonClan and DawnClan as a whole face any punishment for their actions, alongside individual warriors? I could see NightClan demanding a share of their territory.

 

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145 Comments

Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
4:19 PM on October 15, 2015 
That makes more sense, I'm probably the only one who would be scared by that. If anyone wishes, they can delete my failed posts.
Reply 🎄SnowWolf🎄
4:22 PM on October 15, 2015 
Yeah, I agree with that Angel, but I was just thinking she was an "evil" medicine cat, and she wouldn't deserve to be buried at the Moonstone. But, again, that's just my opinion XD
Reply Ember
10:22 PM on October 15, 2015 
The clans might be uncomfortable with leaving them at the Moonstone, since their reign was centered around twisting StarClan's words. Plus, there's already a skeleton hanging out there: Fallenstar. Of course, we could add to the "NightClan and MoonClan need to get over themselves" party.
Reply Fangchica
1:49 PM on October 17, 2015 
XD.So shall Exlipseheart die, or be run out or excited or just demoted? I want to know what to do with her since she never realized Weepingstar's plans and honestly thought he was speaking the truth. Also, I like number four but instead of having the medicine cats decide, maybe have the rebellion leaders decide?
Reply L
2:03 PM on October 17, 2015 
@Fang the rebellion leaders are the new leaders of MoonClan and DawnClan. What happens to Eclipseheart will probably depend on what method is decided for dealing with the Weepingstar supporters. Whoever ends up deciding the punishment, might be a little harsher on her because she was the deputy and did nothing to stop them, although I doubt it'll be as bad a punishment as the enforcers who murdered their clan mates are going to get.
Reply Ember
2:05 PM on October 17, 2015 
I doubt that Eclipseheart would be allowed to remain in the clan as a warrior, but that all depends on what the rebellion leaders and the clan as a whole wants. She could be included with the other zealots, but since she was such an avid and powerful supporter of Weepingstar, she might get executed or chased out during the overthrow. So? excuse the unhelpful answer, but it really could go any of those ways.
I just went through and totaled up the votes, options 6 and 1 were the most popular. We could combine them to have the leaders and deputies, either at a gathering or special meeting individually choose punishments for cats, possibly including banishment for those most involved (such as enforces who murdered their clanmates) and a loss of rights (such as losing the ability to be chosen as a deputy) for others?
I suggest that we hold of on MoonClan?s uprising until next weekend, to give Geckospots more time to gather allies in NightClan and SunClan, since the SunClan meeting has been stuck for so long.
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
7:39 AM on October 19, 2015 
I like that idea, Ember. Also, I don't think the whole of the clans should be punished, since they had no idea what was going on. Yes, that would be pretty cool to send some cats into MoonClan to involve them more. Maybe one illegible cat per account, like at Gatherings?
Reply Ember
10:54 PM on October 19, 2015 
None of the options include the entire clans being punished, unless you consider having cats from the other clans sent into MoonClan to help the transition. If we had one cat from every account sent in to help out, there would be 40-50 cats sent in. That would be a bit unmanageable, both in terms of organizing it out of character and realistically providing in-character resources (if MoonClan has any trouble feeding their current numbers through winter, I can't imagine they could easily feed so many more who aren't as able to hunt in their territory.)
We could have five characters from each clan sent in, taking the first volunteers from active members who haven't broken any major rules recently and don't currently have a highranking character?
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
4:18 PM on October 21, 2015 
Yeah, and I know it wasn't an option. I was referring to the question 'Would MoonClan and DawnClan as a whole face punishment from their actions?' About the cat thing, I really didn't think that through. I think I should just quit posting ideas on this thing
Reply Ember
6:35 PM on October 21, 2015 
Ah, sorry, didn't realize which message you were referring to there and assumed.

Don't quit posting ideas, the more people participate in these plot planning threads the more enjoyable plotlines we'll get out of it.
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
4:24 PM on October 22, 2015 
If you insist. And, yeah, that would have been too many cats. If I'm online, could one of my Apprentices from SunClan go, or should only Warriors go?
Reply Ember
9:42 PM on October 22, 2015 
I think it would work out really nicely if the clans sent in a mix of warriors and apprentices. It would stress that they're trying to rebuild the clan, rather than being a threatening presence, and can't afford to send medicine cats in.
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
7:28 AM on October 23, 2015 
Alright, that makes sense. So could one of my Apprentices go, if I'm online? Well, it might make more sense for a mod or you to have a cat sent, since you have more experience. You'd better know how to act with your characters is my point, whereas I basically just joined.
Reply Ember
8:06 AM on October 23, 2015 
My thought was that we'd take the first volunteers among members who don't have a highranking character, are active, and haven't recently broken any major rules.
You fit within all the criteria and are the first SunClan volunteer, so it looks like you've got the position.
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
4:22 PM on October 23, 2015 
Thanks! Can Spiderpaw go? I'd like him to be of more importance, since in the past he was just a sulky, grief stricken kit.
Reply Ember
7:12 PM on October 23, 2015 
I think the leaders should have the last word on which particular characters go, but from a rules and overall plot standpoint, Spiderpaw going looks like it would be fine.
Reply Amberstrike1019
7:21 PM on October 23, 2015 
Okay, so will the Battle for MoonClan start tomorrow?
Reply L
7:26 PM on October 23, 2015 
Hopefully!
Reply Queen of Warrior Cats
10:34 PM on October 23, 2015 
Alright, can you post it here or PM me if he can go?
Reply Amberstrike1019
7:18 PM on October 24, 2015 
I'm having Amberstrike catalyze the battle by announcing Weepingstar's crimes. Everyone okay with this?

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