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Posted by Ember on October 11, 2015 at 3:50 PM

The DawnClan overthrow has already begun, MoonClan’s revolt is scheduled to begin either next weekend (October 16-18) or the following one (October 23-25). This gap will allow DawnClan to gather support and NightClan and SunClan and prevent too much from happening all at once.

In DawnClan, Clawtail has started a clan meeting to call for Dawnswallow’s removal from power because of the foxglove murders. When Dawnwallow returns to the camp, the clan will be rioting for her execution and she will be killed by her clan mates. After this, Clawtail will set up an election for the clan to vote on their next leader and deputy (Locuststrike and Sacredtears) and announce she will step down from her position when she has trained an apprentice. Lotus-star will be stepping down from her position, as she’s never been a full supporter of the medicine cat she will not be executed or run out of the clan. The kits taken from SunClan would also be returned at this point.

All of that is pretty set in stone now, as the revolt has already begun, but past that point there is still room for discussion about what can happen.

The new DawnClan leadership can send patrols to NightClan and SunClan to discuss a joint overthrow of Weepingstar. Having all the clans working together to destroy Weepingstar’s leadership will build trust that will help our next arc, as well as provide a way to have NightClan and SunClan involved in this plot.

We don’t have very many concrete details set out for how MoonClan’s overthrow will go down. We do know that that Eclipseheart and the medicine cats are loyal to Weepingstar and the leaders of the rebellion will be Geckospots and Amberstrike, who have already supported some of their supporters. This overthrow is likely to be bloodier and longer than DawnClan’s and will result in a costly internal war between the rebels and the zealots, who will be put down by combined MoonClan rebel, DawnClan, SunClan, and NightClan forces in a large battle. It’s possible that we could have a group of warriors from each clan staying in MoonClan to maintain peace while MoonClan transitions into a more stable leadership and the former zealots are integrated back into clan life.

Here are some possible options for what will be done with zealots, suggested by Angel. For all of the options, the punishments for each character or each broad category of crimes will be decided upon out of character before the actual trial, to speed things along and ensure we won’t have to be waiting for members to be online at the right time. There has been some discussion about these options in the last plot planning entry on pages 9 and 10, I suggest you check that out.

1. During a gathering, or possibly a special meeting of just the leaders and deputies, the fate of each cat will be individually chosen.

2. The leaders and deputies during the gathering or a special meeting devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account

3. The medicine cats could decide the fate of each cat during a medicine cat meeting. May help restore the medicine cats’ image as impartial peacekeepers.

4. The medicine cats devise a general punishment for each general crime without taking age and circumstances into account.

5. The medicine cats or leaders decide on a blanket pardon for all crimes on the possible basis that enough blood has been spilled and there is no reason to cause more strife.

6. The medicine cats or leaders could decide to strip all zealots of certain rights, such as making it impossible for them to hold a position of authority within the clan or being lowered to the status of an apprentice.

What do y’all think would be the best option for handling the zealots? How much and how should SunClan and NightClan get involved in the conflict? Should they send warriors to stay in MoonClan for an extended period of time to help the transition? What about in DawnClan? Should the kits taken from SunClan and NightClan be integrated into this at all? Would MoonClan and DawnClan as a whole face any punishment for their actions, alongside individual warriors? I could see NightClan demanding a share of their territory.

 

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145 Comments

Reply Summer Rain
4:42 PM on October 11, 2015 
I like the idea of the medicine cats deciding the fate during a meeting, and of stripping all their rights and putting them down to the status of an apprentice. They shouldn't get away without being punished, but the punishment shouldn't be horrible, either. So I vote 3 & 6.
Reply Agnosticangel
4:52 PM on October 11, 2015 
GAHH THIS IS SO HARD!!!!!! I WANT 3, BUT I DON"T WANT THEM KILLING COBRA!!! AND I DON"T WANT COBRA BEING PUT INTO AN APPRENTICE BUT KILLING CATS SHOULD HAVE SOME PUNISHMENT!!! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I say 6........ but 5 would be okay.... i guess
Reply Whiteflower
4:53 PM on October 11, 2015 
Got a few things to say/ask:
1. So, is Fernwillow taking over the medicine position in Dawnclan? If so, then Clawtail isn't going to need to train an apprentice. She can be banished or put back into a warrior poison; she's going to leave Dawnclan either way after everything is settled.
2. I think two is the most realistic. It sounds like something the cats would do and we only need a few people to be online with leadership positions to attend the actual meeting.
3. I think the Sunclan and Nighclsn kits can choose to leave or stay, depending on what they want to do.
4. I think Sunclan warriors should be posted in Moonclan and even Dawnclan; few enough to be non threatening and enough to keep the clan in order in case anything happens. This could help bring Sunclan into more importance, and M/D could refuse to let Nightclan warriors work as guards. They could satisfy the Nightclanners with territory, to keep them from arguing about having Nightclan warriors in the clans and to satisfy the Nightclan demands.
That's all I have so far.
Reply Henry MacArthur
4:53 PM on October 11, 2015 
I vote for the leaders to decide their fate, so 1 and 2 just because I don't know particularly which one would be best.
Reply OwlFae
5:00 PM on October 11, 2015 
i like 5 still, but maybe combining it with 2 so that there is still a punishment, but no more death
Reply Agnosticangel
5:04 PM on October 11, 2015 
No death but stripping some rights would be good
Reply Halo
5:04 PM on October 11, 2015 
I like what Ebony is saying.
Reply L
5:17 PM on October 11, 2015 
I can't imagine it'd be realistic to settle on anything less than banishment for the Enforcers who ended up murdering some of the rebels.
Reply Amberstrike1019
5:27 PM on October 11, 2015 
Coldstar and Phantom probably would try to take advantage of the situation, and get some forest territory for NightClan. However, I don't see Geckospots and Amberstrike rolling over to their demands. This could either lead to a short conflict or a grudging agreement.
Reply Agnosticangel
5:31 PM on October 11, 2015 
Angel don;t work against me TT^TT What about YinxCobra TT^TT He was an enforcer and meehh
Reply L
6:02 PM on October 11, 2015 
Geckospots and Amberstrike would be at the complete mercy of anything Coldstar wanted to demand, in the same way Lynxstar had to comply with Weepingtiger's demands. After the civil war they'll be disorganized and hurting, and wouldn't be able to stand up against NightClan. Sort of like Germany after WWI. Even though the "bad guys' are dead, MoonClan will probably be on the bottom in any negotiations for some time to come.

I don't want Cobra banished either but even when a warrior murders their clan mate they tend to get banished.
Reply Agnosticangel
6:04 PM on October 11, 2015 
TT^TT
Reply OwlFae
6:14 PM on October 11, 2015 
yeah it would be hard to get nightclan to help without promising something. likely geckospots will use that to help convince coldstar to help
Reply L
6:22 PM on October 11, 2015 
He's not my character so I'm not trying to say what he would or wouldn't do, but I wouldn't be surprised if Coldstar or Phantom wanted to push for more than Geckospots offered after the battle. MoonClan wouldn't survive an attack at that point so unless SC and DC would be willing to intervene, he could take anything he wanted to really.
Reply Riversoul
8:06 PM on October 11, 2015 
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Reply Ember
8:16 PM on October 11, 2015 
Even if we go with one of the options with punishments, these won?t include executions unless, possibly, the cat?s crimes were substantial and the character?s owner wants them to be executed. So don?t worry about that one, having the characters executed is not nearly necessary enough to the plot to warrant an exception to the ?no killing or maiming a character without the permission of the owner of the character being killed or maimed? rule. Banishment is a possibility for some of the enforcers, though.
Ebony, I don?t think that the clans would be comfortable putting the current medicine cats in a position of power again, even in the case of Fernwillow where she spoke out against their rule toward the end of it.
NightClan could demand the territory between above the river and the road, above the burnt woods? This would get NightClan touching Hawk?s Tree again, so they share some sort of border with DawnClan, even if it?s just that corner. There isn?t really anything that SunClan could demand, but I doubt they would demand anything. They?re so cautious; they?d probably see it as in invitation for conflict later, from whoever they took the new territory from.
Reply Willow
9:58 PM on October 11, 2015 
It seems that both 3 and 4 seem good to restore the Medicine Cats rights and keep thhe clans from destroying medicine cats alltogether. 6 also seems good so no other cats can be trained by zealots.
Reply Amberstrike1019
10:06 PM on October 11, 2015 
Well, the goal of the rebellion is to return MoonClan to the traditional form of leadership. In the original form, medicine cats didn't get to decide on punishments. That was the Leader's right. The Medicine Cat was a spiritual adviser, and had substantial power only in times of sickness.
Reply Agnosticangel
10:18 PM on October 11, 2015 
But if you think about it the clans can see the medics as a threat, and can get rid of them I think it would be better it the medics and the leader all helped
Reply Whiteflower
10:19 PM on October 11, 2015 
@Ember Got it

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