Warrior Cats of the Forest
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Here's my idea:
After Rainstar and Hawkstar retire, Lilystar goes to SunClan trying to make peace. Duskstar hears her out and realizes that DawnClan was not responsible for Coldheart's death and agrees to a truce between the two clans. One of them or one of their deputies brings this up in the next gathering, implying that Coldheart was killed by NightClan. NightClan is outraged and MoonClan comes to their defense. DawnClan and SunClan make an alliance hoping to protect themselves as tension grows. Eventually something happens between SunClan/DawnClan and MoonClan/NightClan, starting a battle between the two.
This could bring NightClan and MoonClan into the plot and start the alliance between the two that we thought would be really cool before, plus it would force SunClan and DawnClan to be a major part of the plot, not merely backup for NightClan and MoonClan. What do you guys think of it? Have any ideas of your own?
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This could actually be a really cool plot. High-fives to the brainstormers!!
So, would we actually role play the battle or just, I don't know, say it's happening?
For our upcoming battle, DawnClan and SunClan should win.
MoonClan and NightClan are so sure they're going to, it will be quite a blow to their pride to be defeated by the "weaker" clans. This could set up future battles, as they will be eager to show their strength. Plus, if MC and NC win this attack, it will be difficult to set up SC and DC attacking MC/NC, and MC/NC wouldn't have reason to attack them again.
MoonClan and NightClan are so sure they're going to, it will be quite a blow to their pride to be defeated by the "weaker" clans. This could set up future battles, as they will be eager to show their strength. Plus, if MC and NC win this attack, it will be difficult to set up SC and DC attacking MC/NC, and MC/NC wouldn't have reason to attack them again.
So Sunclan's going to run to DC for help during the battle? MC and NC don't have it in their plans to attack DC, so an SC warrior would have to get away during the battle to get their help.
Dragonfly says...
So Sunclan's going to run to DC for help during the battle? MC and NC don't have it in their plans to attack DC, so an SC warrior would have to get away during the battle to get their help.
Yeah, either one warrior or a small patrol of their fastest cats.
I don't know. Putting my bias towards NC aside for a second, I feel like an SC win during this battle would make it hard to encourage any future battles. NC's only attacking because SC insulted their "honor" during the Gathering. If they lose the battle, even after being the ones to plan it out with MC, it stands as a failed revenge tactic and both clans end up looking weak and beaten, and another attack on SC/DC would only result in failure as they would have less warriors and more that were injured. NC would definitely hold a grudge, but they'd have to wait months to build up their ranks before they felt comfortable with risking their own necks again.
I think that if MC and NC carry out their attack on SC without DC interference, then the first battle could take place so SC does little to no fighting, seeing how outnumbered they are, before surrendering, then NC and MC, their egos swelled, could make outrageous demands. After being forced to comply SC could go to DC with the fear that NC would keep pushing the borders and try to assert their authority as much as they could, which they almost definitely would, and then DC could do something like send warriors to help patrol the SC borders. This could lead to border skirmishes between all four of the clans and after getting pushed too far, SC and DC could plan an attack on NC and win that battle. NC and MC would seem to have a harder time giving in to a fight when it's on their own turf and would feel more directly threatened, a component that wouldn't really exist until they lost in their own territory. I'm not saying it's the only way, the other way would end up working too if we made it, but it was just an idea.
I think that if MC and NC carry out their attack on SC without DC interference, then the first battle could take place so SC does little to no fighting, seeing how outnumbered they are, before surrendering, then NC and MC, their egos swelled, could make outrageous demands. After being forced to comply SC could go to DC with the fear that NC would keep pushing the borders and try to assert their authority as much as they could, which they almost definitely would, and then DC could do something like send warriors to help patrol the SC borders. This could lead to border skirmishes between all four of the clans and after getting pushed too far, SC and DC could plan an attack on NC and win that battle. NC and MC would seem to have a harder time giving in to a fight when it's on their own turf and would feel more directly threatened, a component that wouldn't really exist until they lost in their own territory. I'm not saying it's the only way, the other way would end up working too if we made it, but it was just an idea.
Yeah, Dragonfly, that's a better idea. It will make the war more interesting ^_^
Are the rest of you up for it?
Are the rest of you up for it?
Sorry. I don't know about the little amount of fighting, though. I think Sunclan should be seriously beat, to the point a few important warriors actually die, before they give up. This would give Duskstar much, much more fear and incentive to go to Dawnclan.Other than the fact I think it should be a bigger battles maybe a patrol killed in the process, it sounds good.
This is just my bias, but perhaps if someone close to Duskstar gets seriously injured he'll more quickly agree to given up out of worry?...
This is just my bias, but perhaps if someone close to Duskstar gets seriously injured he'll more quickly agree to given up out of worry?...
Hm... I have no clue about during the war, but about after the war, I agree with Dragonfly. But here is my more detailed add-on: After the war MC and NC could make outrageous demands, and one of them is expanding their border out onto SC's border. Duskstar knows his clan is growing, and would not be able to survive with what little territory they have left. Seeing that they had no choice, Duskstar would send a patrol to DC, explaining the situation. Lilystar could hesitate, feeling like she doesnt want her clan to have anything to do with the war. But after thinking about the situation, she could send a group to SC to help them. The DC patrol could once in a while send a cat from their own clan to tell Lilystar about what was going on, and after NC pushes their border even further, Lilystar decided that it was enough. She could tell that warrior to ask Duskstar about attacking NC and MC for their territory back. Out of fear, Duskstar would not agree, not wanting to lose more cats in the war. But as a border skimirish takes place, injuring some of the border patrol warriors from SC, Duskstar finally realized what was actually going on. He returned to DC, telling Lilystar that he had changed his mind, and agreed fully to attack NC and MC. Together, they could send a patrol first to surprise MC and NC, and then later on, more warriors could come along and help NC and MC. NC and MC could try their best to beat the 'weak' clans, but mysteriously finds themselves unable too. MC could retreat first, finding themselves unable to beat them, and didn't want to lose any more warriors. NC could be stubborn, refusing to be weak, and just fight a little longer, but after NC leader finally realizes it was hopeless, he would back off, but not before telling DC and SC that it wasn't over.
What do you think? Is that okay with you or just sounded like a complete idiot idea? (sorry for the long post, I really need to learn to keep my writing self in check. -.- )
What do you think? Is that okay with you or just sounded like a complete idiot idea? (sorry for the long post, I really need to learn to keep my writing self in check. -.- )
If SunClan was seriously beat, they would not try to attack again, even with DawnClan support. It doesn?t make much sense for them to put themselves in danger, knowing they?ve been defeated before. They are the more cautious, rational clan, not as vicious as NC or proud as MC. Lilystar is already invested in the war, at least a little, as the supported DawnClan during the gathering. If we go with Ghost?s plan, DC will already be helping SC before MC and NC start demanding things from SC.
Okay. Sorry. I forgot the nature of Sunclan there for a second.
Never mind.
Yay Ghost's idea!
Never mind.
Yay Ghost's idea!
Do you guys think we can do the battle this weekend? That way we can get pretty far into the plot before Mirestar has to retire.
I won't be on too often at all this weekend - emphasis on at all.
This weekend would work for me as well. I have to be going on monday to Kansas and New Jersey. (thumbs up for missing school.)
Then maybe Friday? I don't think the first battle's going to be very long, not if there isn't much actual fighting.
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